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Old February 23 2012, 12:34 AM   #16
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Re: Alternate Timelines

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the Enterprise was built when she originally was, in the form we saw her in TOS, but ...

She was destroyed somehow early in her existence
In the original outline, this would literally have happened: the ship destroyed in the opening scenes was not the Kelvin, but the TOS Enterprise, with Robert April in command. However, the writers were strictly forbidden from destroying the Enterprise (even if they were going to replace it with a newer one), and Paramount ordered it changed to the Kelvin and Captain Robau.

I hadn't heard that. I would have liked that. George Kirk serving with Captain April on the Enterprise--would have tied in nicely with one of my favorite Trek novels: Diane Carey's "Final Frontier."
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Old February 23 2012, 12:46 AM   #17
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Since "Final Frontier" takes place around 2243 (adjusted from the SFC date of 2188 given in the book), I don't see why Carey's novel can't be what later happened to George Prime, after his time on the Kelvin.

Err... assuming one coughs over the bit about him vanishing while James Kirk was a midshipman. And assumes George transferred to security to get a posting closer to home to be nearer to his boys after his tour as XO on the Kelvin.
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Old February 23 2012, 01:33 AM   #18
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I would have liked to see what a modern movie budget would have done with a TOS-style bridge. The Defiant in "In A Mirror, Darkly" was a fine job, but that was just for TV - that wouldn't work for the big screen. I assume that if the original ST XI opener had gone through, the April-era Enterprise bridge would have been more ambitious looking.
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Old February 23 2012, 10:09 AM   #19
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The USS Kelvin's was a reimagined TOS-era bridge. Look at the captain's chair, the shape of the consoles in front and around. Pure TOS, made real.
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Old February 23 2012, 02:36 PM   #20
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Plus, it even had TOS bridge sound effects.
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Old February 28 2012, 01:47 AM   #21
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The important question is whether or not, in the Abrams timeline, Pike ends up saying "boop-boop" from his wheelchair...
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Old February 29 2012, 10:05 PM   #22
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The Kelvin felt like a direct decedent of the NX-01.
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