RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 138,383
Posts: 5,357,575
Members: 24,626
Currently online: 553
Newest member: suryaprabu02

TrekToday headlines

The Gene Roddenberry Project Kickstarter
By: T'Bonz on Jul 30

Moore: No Deep Space Nine Regrets
By: T'Bonz on Jul 30

Pegg Star Wars Rumor
By: T'Bonz on Jul 30

Borg Cube Fridge
By: T'Bonz on Jul 29

Free Enterprise Kickstarter
By: T'Bonz on Jul 29

Siddig To Join Game Of Thrones
By: T'Bonz on Jul 29

Sci-Fried To Release New Album
By: T'Bonz on Jul 28

Star Trek/Planet of the Apes Crossover
By: T'Bonz on Jul 28

Star Trek into Darkness Soundtrack
By: T'Bonz on Jul 28

Horse 1, Shatner 0
By: T'Bonz on Jul 28


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy

Science Fiction & Fantasy Farscape, Babylon 5, Star Wars, Firefly, vampires, genre books and film.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 29 2012, 03:22 AM   #1111
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Scout101 wrote: View Post
And since Andrea basically was in the same place herself at the end of Season 1, I'd think she's pretty well qualified to make a call on this one.
Yeah, Andrea was in the same position, but she grew out of it and doesn't want to commit suicide anymore. If she had been allowed to get herself blown up at the CDC, she would be dead right now and the group would be less one person that can protect the group.

I don't understand why she treats Dale like crap. Ungrateful bitch!

Also that was a dumb move by Andrea. If she had let Beth die on her watch, instead of just her not being allowed in the house, the Hershel family would definately want the entire group gone.

This is another Rick or Shane argument. You gotta do what you gotta do to survive, but you can't get rid of your humanity. Eventually everyone will be suicidal, but that doesn't you just let everyone die.
__________________
=)
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 03:52 AM   #1112
sidious618
Admiral
 
sidious618's Avatar
 
Location: New York, US
Send a message via AIM to sidious618
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

sojourner wrote: View Post
Alpha Romeo wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
I think the writers just have a hard time writing for the women characters in general. The whole part of the episode with "just the women" was a clusterfuck.
Trainwreck, cluster fuck. Your versions of these leaves much to be desired. I thought Lori conveyed her feelings well and andrea has been developed into a hard fighting machine as she is in the comics.
It was disjointed in that half the cast just seemed to blink out of existence.

I'll admit the Shane/Rick part of the episode was good, but the girls part? Not well constructed.
The writing for women in this show is almost always godawful but I thought the plot with the women was actually an improvement this past week.
__________________
We've met before, haven't we?
sidious618 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 03:58 AM   #1113
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

RJDiogenes wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
I think the writers just have a hard time writing for the women characters in general. The whole part of the episode with "just the women" was a clusterfuck.
While it was embarrassing, it was also realistic. A sad number of people still think in those stereotypical terms-- I have relatives who have conversations like that all the time. And this series takes place in the South, where those old-time notions are even more prevalent.
Indeed. This isn't bad writing. Plenty of women are like Lori who think a woman should cook and clean for her man while her man provides and protects her family. Don't hate the writing, hate the fact that Lori seems to be one of those women who is simply content to be a housewife.
__________________
=)
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 04:05 AM   #1114
Alpha Romeo
Vice Admiral
 
Alpha Romeo's Avatar
 
Location: Connecticut
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

sojourner wrote: View Post
Alpha Romeo wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
I think the writers just have a hard time writing for the women characters in general. The whole part of the episode with "just the women" was a clusterfuck.
Trainwreck, cluster fuck. Your versions of these leaves much to be desired. I thought Lori conveyed her feelings well and andrea has been developed into a hard fighting machine as she is in the comics.
It was disjointed in that half the cast just seemed to blink out of existence.

I'll admit the Shane/Rick part of the episode was good, but the girls part? Not well constructed.
By what rule must the entire ensemble cast be part of EVERY episode? You are grasping at straws.
__________________
"Kirk would have fucked the cold dead skull of the Borg Queen when it was all over."
Alpha Romeo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 04:11 AM   #1115
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Alpha Romeo wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
It was disjointed in that half the cast just seemed to blink out of existence.

I'll admit the Shane/Rick part of the episode was good, but the girls part? Not well constructed.
By what rule must the entire ensemble cast be part of EVERY episode? You are grasping at straws.
Many shows like LOST do this all the time. It is a good way to develop characters since they don't have to share screentime with everyone else. I wish the writers would do this more for the show.
__________________
=)
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 05:51 AM   #1116
sojourner
Vice Admiral
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Location: I'm at WKRP
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Alpha Romeo wrote: View Post

By what rule must the entire ensemble cast be part of EVERY episode? You are grasping at straws.
I'm not saying everyone needed a significant number of lines. I'm saying that they seemed to have vanished into thin air. Heck, there wasn't even anyone visible in the background when Lori went outside. It was odd. And that was a separate observation from the gripe about the writing, so not sure what I am "grasping at straws" about.

I personally thought the episode as a whole was not well structured. Merely an opinion and not trying to force that on anyone.YMMV.
__________________
Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 06:04 AM   #1117
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

sojourner wrote: View Post
I'm not saying everyone needed a significant number of lines. I'm saying that they seemed to have vanished into thin air. Heck, there wasn't even anyone visible in the background when Lori went outside. It was odd.
Why do you need to see every character every episode? In real life people don't need to see everyone they know in real life to know that they still exist. The other characters could simply be doing something unimportant, which is why the writers decided not to include them in the episode.

Do you need to see T-Dog make a five second appearance and say one line in every episode to be happy?
__________________
=)
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 08:34 AM   #1118
sojourner
Vice Admiral
 
sojourner's Avatar
 
Location: I'm at WKRP
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

^I don't think we need to see every character every episode. I don't think everyone needs a line. (fuck, I even said as much in my last post. How obtuse can someone be?)
I just think it was odd that we didn't see anyone in the background. It's the first time on the farm we haven't seen anyone except those important to the episode. In previous episodes there's always been other members of the cast wandering about. It's not that there aren't many in the background or that one particular person is missing. It's the fact that not one of them is fucking there. Is that clear enough?

Jesus.
__________________
Baby, you and me were never meant to be, just maybe think of me once in a while...
sojourner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 09:38 AM   #1119
Dream
Admiral
 
Dream's Avatar
 
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

sojourner wrote: View Post
I just think it was odd that we didn't see anyone in the background.
I'm guessing the writers might have wanted the other actors to have a rest for this episode. They might be preparing everyone to do the season finale, which is bound to be intense and full of action.
__________________
=)
Dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 03:10 PM   #1120
Servo
Rear Admiral
 
Servo's Avatar
 
Location: Manchester, England
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Dream wrote: View Post
Also poor Randall.
Randall is a ticking bomb. After the way he went after that zombie woman ("Let's see what you've got, bitch"), and kept stabbing her in the head repeatedly, I think he's full of shit and is just as bad as the guys that left him behind. I'm not even convinced he really knows Maggie. Aside from using her name, which he could have easily picked up from the group, he gave no real information to back it up.
Sure, using Maggie's name may have put him one step closer to a bullet in the head, but he may not have considered that while he was trying to talk the guys out of leaving him tied upon the floor in Zombieville. I said he was full of shit, but I never said he was smart.
__________________
"You're not married, you haven't got a girlfriend... and you've never watched Star Trek? Good Lord..."
Servo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 03:21 PM   #1121
AviTrek
Fleet Captain
 
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

sojourner wrote: View Post
^I don't think we need to see every character every episode. I don't think everyone needs a line. (fuck, I even said as much in my last post. How obtuse can someone be?)
I just think it was odd that we didn't see anyone in the background. It's the first time on the farm we haven't seen anyone except those important to the episode. In previous episodes there's always been other members of the cast wandering about. It's not that there aren't many in the background or that one particular person is missing. It's the fact that not one of them is fucking there. Is that clear enough?

Jesus.
$$$

Why show a regular in the background and have to pay them for an episode when you don't need them and can save their pay for the week. Remember, the show was under pressure to keep its budget down.
AviTrek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 03:29 PM   #1122
Santeria
Lieutenant Commander
 
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Servo wrote: View Post
Randall is a ticking bomb. After the way he went after that zombie woman ("Let's see what you've got, bitch"), and kept stabbing her in the head repeatedly, I think he's full of shit and is just as bad as the guys that left him behind.
Especially since he was clearly the voice that was trying to instigate his 'buddies' into killing them in the first place. The one who wanted to just cut their losses and run... ran.
Santeria is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 05:48 PM   #1123
wissaboo
Captain
 
wissaboo's Avatar
 
Location: canada
View wissaboo's Twitter Profile
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

AviTrek wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
^I don't think we need to see every character every episode. I don't think everyone needs a line. (fuck, I even said as much in my last post. How obtuse can someone be?)
I just think it was odd that we didn't see anyone in the background. It's the first time on the farm we haven't seen anyone except those important to the episode. In previous episodes there's always been other members of the cast wandering about. It's not that there aren't many in the background or that one particular person is missing. It's the fact that not one of them is fucking there. Is that clear enough?

Jesus.
$$$

Why show a regular in the background and have to pay them for an episode when you don't need them and can save their pay for the week. Remember, the show was under pressure to keep its budget down.
and very little of the action took place outside on the farm. What they might of done was filmed two episodes at once. Split the crew in half, two directors and have two episodes with only half the cast each.
wissaboo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 06:52 PM   #1124
DarthTom
Fleet Admiral
 
DarthTom's Avatar
 
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

Servo wrote: View Post
Randall is a ticking bomb. After the way he went after that zombie woman ("Let's see what you've got, bitch"), and kept stabbing her in the head repeatedly, I think he's full of shit and is just as bad as the guys that left him behind. I'm not even convinced he really knows Maggie. Aside from using her name, which he could have easily picked up from the group, he gave no real information to back it up.
Sure, using Maggie's name may have put him one step closer to a bullet in the head, but he may not have considered that while he was trying to talk the guys out of leaving him tied upon the floor in Zombieville. I said he was full of shit, but I never said he was smart.
The sneak preview for next week's show seems to suggest that Daryl is going to conduct interrogation that would make Gitmo prison guards afraid.

If you're right, that may flush out any of Randall's lies.
DarthTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 29 2012, 10:03 PM   #1125
Mr. Adventure
Admiral
 
Mr. Adventure's Avatar
 
Location: Mr. Adventure
Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

AviTrek wrote: View Post
sojourner wrote: View Post
^I don't think we need to see every character every episode. I don't think everyone needs a line. (fuck, I even said as much in my last post. How obtuse can someone be?)
I just think it was odd that we didn't see anyone in the background. It's the first time on the farm we haven't seen anyone except those important to the episode. In previous episodes there's always been other members of the cast wandering about. It's not that there aren't many in the background or that one particular person is missing. It's the fact that not one of them is fucking there. Is that clear enough?

Jesus.
$$$

Why show a regular in the background and have to pay them for an episode when you don't need them and can save their pay for the week. Remember, the show was under pressure to keep its budget down.
That doesn't really affect his point though. Just because there's a real world reason behind it doesn't fix the problem.
Mr. Adventure is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
frank darabont, horror, robert kirkman, the walking dead, twd, zombies

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:40 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.