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Old February 18 2012, 03:49 AM   #1051
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AdmiralScreed speaking of disagreements I am having a heart attack over your blasphemous sig line!!!!!!!
Sorry, but that's the way I roll. TNG is the #1 Trek show in my book, and Picard is my all time favorite television/movie character ever. Kirk and TOS? Well, just go look up an old thread in the general section called TOS: Overrated?, and that'll tell you everything you need to know about me and TOS.

And so far I haven't had any problems with Naomi. The only recurring child characters that I couldn't stand were Nog and Alexander, although at least Alexander got better as he got older. Nog, on the other hand, just turned into an unlikable, arrogant, and overly gung ho soldier.
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Old February 18 2012, 03:52 AM   #1052
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Oh yeah Wesley was so dark, suspenseful and threatening
And I'll go on record to say that I actually liked Wesley. Not one of the best Trek characters ever, sure, but he had some damn good episodes. The First Duty, Journey's End, and Where No One Has Gone Before to name a few. Plus I don't think Justice is as terrible as everyone claims.
I didn't like how he was socially awkward.
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Old February 18 2012, 03:53 AM   #1053
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Old February 18 2012, 03:55 AM   #1054
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Oh yeah Wesley was so dark, suspenseful and threatening
And I'll go on record to say that I actually liked Wesley. Not one of the best Trek characters ever, sure, but he had some damn good episodes. The First Duty, Journey's End, and Where No One Has Gone Before to name a few. Plus I don't think Justice is as terrible as everyone claims.
I didn't like how he was socially awkward.
I thought it was a character flaw that made him more relatable. Despite his superior intelligence he's still human. He isn't perfect, and he makes mistakes.
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Old February 18 2012, 03:57 AM   #1055
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Okay, I'll agree with you on that one. Couldn't stand weird-hair kid.
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Old February 18 2012, 03:58 AM   #1056
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Guy, please don't tell me you're a Wesley hater. Uh uh, sorry. We don't serve your kind here.
I was young enough when TNG aired that I could look up to Wesley as a role model, you know how it just wonderful how the teen makes the adults look like rubes. Good times.

It's the monkey sitting next to Picard I have a problem with.

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I thought Naomi Wildman was a fine kid character who added a lot to the stories she was in. I thought "Once Upon a Time" was fantastic.
I was old enough when Voyager started airing that I could see tiny children as adorable, like kittens riding skateboards.

besides, in Once Upon a Time, Naomi is only three years old.

That's a (*&^%ing hard core Three Year old.

"relatively" speaking.

Y'know, since when kes was three, she turned into a god in one timeline and had a baby with Tom in an other, and by the time time she was 4, Harry was her son in law.
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Old February 18 2012, 03:58 AM   #1057
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I think Naomi is a great character and she is my favorite Trek kid. Very good actor, well written.
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Old February 18 2012, 04:00 AM   #1058
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Guy, please don't tell me you're a Wesley hater. Uh uh, sorry. We don't serve your kind here.
I was young enough when TNG aired that I could look up to Wesley as a role model, you know how it just wonderful how the teen makes the adults look like rubes. Good times.

It's the monkey sitting next to Picard I have a problem with.
Sometimes I think I looooove everything in Trek just because compared to the one thing I truly hate, the monkey, everything looks pretty good.
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Old February 18 2012, 04:03 AM   #1059
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And I'll go on record to say that I actually liked Wesley. Not one of the best Trek characters ever, sure, but he had some damn good episodes. The First Duty, Journey's End, and Where No One Has Gone Before to name a few. Plus I don't think Justice is as terrible as everyone claims.
I didn't like how he was socially awkward.
I thought it was a character flaw that made him more relatable. Despite his superior intelligence he's still human. He isn't perfect, and he makes mistakes.
I found Jake, Nog & Niomi more relatable.
They weren't perfect people either but they were also more grounded.
I found Wesley to be a stereotype of what folks think all tech-nerds are like. He acted like he was from "Leave it to Beaver" than what I expected from a child of the 24th century.
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Old February 18 2012, 04:04 AM   #1060
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Old February 18 2012, 04:06 AM   #1061
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Exactly!!!

Wesley couldn't figure out how to kiss a girl, meanwhile Jake is hooking his dad up with woman and giving him sexual advice. Jake is what I expect a kid of the modern age to be.
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Old February 18 2012, 04:07 AM   #1062
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I still to this day don't get what people's deal is with Wesley. In fact, I think one of the only reasons people hate on his major episodes like Justice is because they didn't kill him off. I'm glad the writers kept using him. Gotta feel bad for Wheaton, though. He really didn't deserve all of the criticism fans gave him (and continue to give him).
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Old February 18 2012, 04:08 AM   #1063
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Old February 18 2012, 04:10 AM   #1064
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Criticizing Wheaton is stupid. The acting was perfectly competent and he worked with what was given to him. He is also pretty friendly with fans and fandom, unless of course you are a furry.
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Old February 18 2012, 04:12 AM   #1065
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Criticizing Wheaton is stupid. The acting was perfectly competent and he worked with what was given to him. He is also pretty friendly with fans and fandom, unless of course you are a furry.
Completely agreed.
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