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Old February 16 2012, 10:19 PM   #16
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I'll gladly lose that little light on the Excelsior model if it means getting a beautiful HD shot like that.
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Old February 17 2012, 12:55 AM   #17
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That's gotta be a joke, right?
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Old February 17 2012, 02:28 AM   #18
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I really don't see why the loss of the formation light is any big deal to consider.
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Old February 17 2012, 03:15 AM   #19
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That's gotta be a joke, right?
Going by the rabid desire to keep TNG exactly the same in the HD version, I'd honestly believe that is a legitimate article written by someone from this board? Sho? is it yours?
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Old February 17 2012, 03:49 AM   #20
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Is it more or less rabid than the desire by others to snazzify TNG?
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Old February 17 2012, 05:20 AM   #21
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The shot of Lietuentant Torres getting frozen is different from the original was the only real difference I noticed.
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Old February 17 2012, 10:20 AM   #22
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The shot of Lietuentant Torres getting frozen is different from the original was the only real difference I noticed.
Good catch. Ex-astris-scientia didn't even notice that.

I think you may be the first to point this out (please correct me if I'm wrong). I thought the wider angle looked a bit odd, because I hadn't remembered seeing the jets of frost moving around at him like that before. The close-up of Torres was always an optical enlargement of the medium shot (it's about a 220% magnification). That's why the grain looks huge on the close-up. That I did notice, but I hadn't gone back to look at the original SD version until just now, and you're absolutely right. I think they went with the original framing to minimize how bad the close-up looks in HD.

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Old February 17 2012, 11:29 AM   #23
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They stuck with the zoomed shot for when he is 'fully frozen' though, didn't they? I seem to recall the grain being oversized in that shot on the Blu.
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Old February 17 2012, 11:40 AM   #24
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They stuck with the zoomed shot for when he is 'fully frozen' though, didn't they? I seem to recall the grain being oversized in that shot on the Blu.
Exactly. I linked to it, here. I don't think they wanted to show it more than once. That's likely why they substituted the original medium shot for when the freezing starts. They probably thought the larger grain would be somewhat mistaken for the frost spray in the air when they cut back to him.
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Old February 17 2012, 12:18 PM   #25
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Gah, overlooked that link originally. Sorry.
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Old February 17 2012, 03:23 PM   #26
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Great find! I hadn't noticed that before. I have sent screenshots to Bernd for inclusion in the article and we will give credit to you, Kamdan, if you're okay with that!

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Old February 17 2012, 06:41 PM   #27
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Great find! I hadn't noticed that before. I have sent screenshots to Bernd for inclusion in the article and we will give credit to you, Kamdan, if you're okay with that!

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Thar's one of the first things I noticed, I mentioned shots that were changed in my first review...that was one of them.

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Old February 17 2012, 07:10 PM   #28
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We'll give you, Kamdan and Maxwell Everett credit for the discovery, then! :-)
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Old February 18 2012, 02:39 AM   #29
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Is it more or less rabid than the desire by others to snazzify TNG?
You could say it's rabid, but at least we want to modernize the feel of the show, as opposed to just clear up the fuzzyness.
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Old February 18 2012, 04:36 AM   #30
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They stuck with the zoomed shot for when he is 'fully frozen' though, didn't they? I seem to recall the grain being oversized in that shot on the Blu.
Exactly. I linked to it, here. I don't think they wanted to show it more than once. That's likely why they substituted the original medium shot for when the freezing starts. They probably thought the larger grain would be somewhat mistaken for the frost spray in the air when they cut back to him.
I suspect they were originally trying to hide the obvious spray of frost in the shot.
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