Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? - Page 2

Broccoli · February 14 2012, 09:04 PM

Mistral wrote:

Satyrquaze wrote:

Best: Ledger's Joker
Worst: Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze

Agreed. Thought y'all overlooked Arnie's horrific work.

Are you kidding me? Arnold was fantastic in a role designed to be incredibly over-the-top.

Now, whether it was written well, that's another story.

Silvercrest · February 14 2012, 09:07 PM

JD wrote:

EDIT: Just remembered another one I liked, Tim Roth's Abomination in Incredible Hulk.

I thought it was unanimous that Two-Face was the abomination.

Mistral · February 15 2012, 12:45 AM

Silvercrest wrote:

JD wrote:

EDIT: Just remembered another one I liked, Tim Roth's Abomination in Incredible Hulk.

I thought it was unanimous that Two-Face was the abomination.

Pretty much.

stj · February 15 2012, 03:48 AM

"It was acting!

Errol Flynn in The Rocketeer. (Well, officially Neville Sinclair.)
And Tiny Ron as Rondo Hatton made the best hench-villain too.

The competition for worst is ferocious, but for sheer stupidity Sebastian Shaw in X-Men First Class has got to be considered. Killing a kid's mother is the foundation for a partnership in conquering the world? His superpowers disappear so that he can be killed by a slow moving coin? Kevin Bacon is so compelling that you almost buy it, but no, not quite.

Trekker4747 · February 15 2012, 03:53 AM

Good: The Dak Knight's Joker
Worst: "Nuclear Man" from Superman IV.

The Borgified Corpse · February 23 2012, 02:56 AM

Best? I'll be a little different and say Lord High Chancellor Adam Sutler, not to mention his amoral right-hand-man Mr. Creedy, in V for Vendetta. I love John Hurt's performance. He commands the screen even though he doesn't do much besides appear on a giant viewscreen and bark orders to his underlings. Still, it's John-fucking-Hurt!

For worst, what about the smarmy corporate guy in Superman III? Imagine all the camp of 1970s Lex Luthor but without Gene Hackman's charm.

Dominic Purcell's version of Dracula in Blade Trinity is both one of the worst comic book movies ever and one of the worst Draculas ever (tied with Richard Roxburgh's godawful whiner in Van Helsing).

Harvey · February 23 2012, 03:15 AM

Heath Ledger's interpretation of The Joker will be the benchmark performance for a villain in a superhero movie for some time to come, I imagine. He's magnetic to the point that it's hard to see the movie's flaws.

Jeep Swenson's version of Bane in Batman & Robin is on the bottom. I agree that Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face was basically thrown away, but compared to the next movie's treatment of Bane, Jones was the star of the show.

Kirkman1987 · February 23 2012, 06:01 PM

I like General Zod.

Greg Cox · February 23 2012, 07:54 PM

Trekker4747 wrote:

Good: The Dak Knight's Joker
Worst: "Nuclear Man" from Superman IV.

Ouch. I forgot all about Nuclear Man. Yeah, that was bad.

Captaindemotion · February 23 2012, 10:17 PM

Best: Heath Ledger's Joker, Ian McKellen's Magneto, honourable mention for Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin

Worst: Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face, Julian McMahon's Doctor Doom, Nuclear Man from Superman III

Trekker4747 · February 24 2012, 02:26 AM

Greg Cox wrote:

Trekker4747 wrote:

Good: The Dak Knight's Joker
Worst: "Nuclear Man" from Superman IV.

Ouch. I forgot all about Nuclear Man. Yeah, that was bad.

I wish... I wish I could forget. My therapist hopes that someday we'll get there but it's a very long road.

Set Harth · February 24 2012, 04:21 AM

Trekker4747 wrote:

My therapist hopes that someday we'll get there but it's a very long toad.

Wow, I didn't know they could be therapists.

JaxsBrokenHeart · February 24 2012, 10:25 AM

Bit of an odd choice, but I always found that Shredder from the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles worked really well, making a one-shot character from the comics, and more of a comic buffoon from the TV series into a genuinely evil and intimidating antagonist. Looking back on the film, some his stuff descends into cliche at times, but its still a strong performance.

The thing I love in the ending is that the film really builds up the Turtles as fighters, then have the big face-off with Shredder... and he just wipes the floor with them in the fight. Takes his time, waits for them to plan, and still just takes them out easily. It leads to a solid ending though with Splinter essentially goading him into self-destruction, and Casey Jones doing the finishing touches. In hindsight they would have better off leaving him dead, and going with another villain for the sequel.

Captaindemotion · February 24 2012, 04:11 PM

Set Harth wrote:

Trekker4747 wrote:

My therapist hopes that someday we'll get there but it's a very long toad.

Wow, I didn't know they could be therapists.

You know what happens toads when they become therapists?

Same thing that happens everyone else!

scnj · February 24 2012, 04:18 PM

C_Miller wrote:

The first half was great and the changes with how they made him Two Face worked, but he's a villain who deserves more than being an after thought in the Joker movie. And then killing him at the end in that way was lame.

I disagree. The transformation of Harvey Dent was the pivotal moment of the whole thing. The entire film was Bruce's quest to see Harvey Dent take over as the crusader for justice, and Joker's plan to corrupt Gotham's "white knight". Dent/Two Face is the most important character in the whole thing.

February 15 2012, 03:48 AM	#19
stj Rear Admiral Location: the real world	Re: Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? "It was acting! Errol Flynn in The Rocketeer. (Well, officially Neville Sinclair.) And Tiny Ron as Rondo Hatton made the best hench-villain too. The competition for worst is ferocious, but for sheer stupidity Sebastian Shaw in X-Men First Class has got to be considered. Killing a kid's mother is the foundation for a partnership in conquering the world? His superpowers disappear so that he can be killed by a slow moving coin? Kevin Bacon is so compelling that you almost buy it, but no, not quite. __________________ Morals are what you do to other people. Other people, what we call society, are essential to human happiness. Therefore, morals are the path to happiness. My morals, your happiness; your morals, my happiness: It's a fair trade.

February 15 2012, 03:53 AM	#20
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? Good: The Dak Knight's Joker Worst: "Nuclear Man" from Superman IV. __________________ Just because it's futuristic doesn't mean it's practical.

February 23 2012, 02:56 AM	#21
The Borgified Corpse Admiral Location: Making closing arguments with Jack McCoy & Michael Cutter	Re: Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? Best? I'll be a little different and say Lord High Chancellor Adam Sutler, not to mention his amoral right-hand-man Mr. Creedy, in V for Vendetta. I love John Hurt's performance. He commands the screen even though he doesn't do much besides appear on a giant viewscreen and bark orders to his underlings. Still, it's John-fucking-Hurt! For worst, what about the smarmy corporate guy in Superman III? Imagine all the camp of 1970s Lex Luthor but without Gene Hackman's charm. Dominic Purcell's version of Dracula in Blade Trinity is both one of the worst comic book movies ever and one of the worst Draculas ever (tied with Richard Roxburgh's godawful whiner in Van Helsing). __________________ Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."

February 23 2012, 03:15 AM	#22
Harvey Admiral	Re: Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? Heath Ledger's interpretation of The Joker will be the benchmark performance for a villain in a superhero movie for some time to come, I imagine. He's magnetic to the point that it's hard to see the movie's flaws. Jeep Swenson's version of Bane in Batman & Robin is on the bottom. I agree that Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face was basically thrown away, but compared to the next movie's treatment of Bane, Jones was the star of the show. __________________ "What do you hear, Starbuck?" "Nothing but the rain, sir." "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat."

February 23 2012, 06:01 PM	#23
Kirkman1987 Commodore Location: Missouri	Re: Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? I like General Zod.

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February 23 2012, 10:17 PM	#25
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? Best: Heath Ledger's Joker, Ian McKellen's Magneto, honourable mention for Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin Worst: Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face, Julian McMahon's Doctor Doom, Nuclear Man from Superman III __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

February 24 2012, 10:25 AM	#28
JaxsBrokenHeart Lieutenant	Re: Best and Worst Villains in a Comic Book Movie? Bit of an odd choice, but I always found that Shredder from the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles worked really well, making a one-shot character from the comics, and more of a comic buffoon from the TV series into a genuinely evil and intimidating antagonist. Looking back on the film, some his stuff descends into cliche at times, but its still a strong performance. The thing I love in the ending is that the film really builds up the Turtles as fighters, then have the big face-off with Shredder... and he just wipes the floor with them in the fight. Takes his time, waits for them to plan, and still just takes them out easily. It leads to a solid ending though with Splinter essentially goading him into self-destruction, and Casey Jones doing the finishing touches. In hindsight they would have better off leaving him dead, and going with another villain for the sequel.