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Old February 7 2012, 01:44 AM   #886
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7's arrival was the greatest shift in any television series ever.

I think saying it was the greatest shift in any TV series is a bit over the top.

I could say that the greatest shift in a TV series ever was Patrick Troughton replacing William Hartnell as the Doctor, I'm sure given some thought I could come up with others.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:00 AM   #887
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Maybe so but for american TV, 7 was an institution all to herself.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:24 AM   #888
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Star trek is a tiny niche in the tiny niche that is science fiction that is a tiny niche in everything that is not sports.

For that era, I'd have put Dana Scully in the lead, and Seven of Nine somewhere far off in the distance inaudibly.

Here's an interesting list.

http://totalscifionline.com/features...o-shook-sci-fi

Janeway came in #16.

Seven of Nine didn't place.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:28 AM   #889
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Personally I've always thought Harry was hot.
You thought Harry Clumsy Awkward Kim was hot?

Yikes!
Shut up, it means we all have a shot.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:30 AM   #890
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We all have a shot at Kim?

Pass me the rifle.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:30 AM   #891
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Thank god Ivanova is in that list.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:33 AM   #892
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As far as female Captains go, what did you think of Captain Belinda Blowhard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starhyke

Oh, I thought that Ivanova was god?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xO9Vr_nBE8

But then, wasn't she also gods hand of death?

Who am I? I am Susan Ivanova, Commander. Daughter of Andre and Sophie Ivanov. I am the right hand of vengeance and the boot that is going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to Earth, sweetheart! I am death incarnate, and the last living thing that you will ever see. God sent me.
Close enough.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:36 AM   #893
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I NEED TO SEE THAT.

:: makes a little note ::
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Old February 7 2012, 02:40 AM   #894
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Well you could come over to mine to see it, but the public transport is diabolical this side of the international dateline.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:43 AM   #895
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Transporter.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:53 AM   #896
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Jason Stratham is going to stick you in the boot of his car?
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Old February 7 2012, 03:16 AM   #897
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Jason Stratham is going to stick you in the boot of his car?
As long as he does it in an Audi. Much cooler than the BMW they used in the first one.
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Old February 7 2012, 03:23 AM   #898
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We all have a shot at Kim?

Pass me the rifle.
Sorry, but I've got first dibs on Kim. You can have what's left after I'm through with him.

Moving on...

Night: A good message, a good villain, but a lot of really annoying scenes with Janeway sulking. How could the captain of the ship act that way? If I had been on the bridge when she asked Tom to take the helm, I would have gladly volunteered to do it if it would have meant never having to see her again. Put Chakotay or Tuvok in command.
Despite my criticisms, this was a decent episode.
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Old February 7 2012, 03:33 AM   #899
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I watched this and Image in the sand back to back on VHS with a friend in the 90s first view and we marveled.

He said "The Voyager was better than DS9."

"Yeah I know, I don't get it either." I concurred.

But Night flavours a lot of my negative opinion on this Starship Captain.
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Old February 7 2012, 03:40 AM   #900
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Night is one of my prime examples for Janeway acting out of character. Her actions in this episode are nearly reprehensible. I would vote this episode down solely based on this.

Other than that, this was a brilliant concept. I wonder if it is scientifically possible to be in a region of space that is so vast that light doesn't penetrate it? I doubt it, but it made for a cool episode.
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