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Old February 7 2012, 01:53 AM   #31
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Re: Janeway wins in a poll of 10,000 people..

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but I thihk secretly he would be pleased they got a woman in there without relying on her having a status as a sex symbol.
I doubt it. It's not like he had any objection to sex symbols.
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Old February 7 2012, 01:56 AM   #32
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Kete isn't a sex symbol?

Power is sexy. Power is Sexy!
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Old February 7 2012, 01:58 AM   #33
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but I thihk secretly he would be pleased they got a woman in there without relying on her having a status as a sex symbol.
I doubt it. It's not like he had any objection to sex symbols.
I saw way too much of Shatner's nipples when I was growing up.
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Old February 7 2012, 01:58 AM   #34
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Compared to other female cast who arguments could be made were cast solely for their looks, Mulgrew had the intelligence and wit to make Janeway work as a rounded character.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:06 AM   #35
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Season one TNG.

Yar looked like a man.

Dee was a butter ball. (I was 10 when this started, even regular sized women looked like a Brobdingnagian to me.)

Gates had the dye job of a woman twice her age.

"Sigh"

I don't think my ears pricked up about any of the female guest stars till Ashley Judd was making time with the boy genius.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:09 AM   #36
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I was merely trying to pay homage to the Janeway character as being different from what came before. I appreciate all of your remarks, my friends.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:16 AM   #37
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Because she isn''t black?

I hate it when people play the race card for no reason.
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Old February 7 2012, 03:12 AM   #38
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For some reason, people who vote on www.startrek.com love Voyager. I think among casual fans "Voyager" is very popular because its definitely the kind of show you can dip into easily and get your fair share of boobs and action of the week.

Frankly the results of those polls are often a total joke, apparently the season finale of "Voyager" gave people the most closure. LOL WUT, way to not use your brains voters ;-)
It might be that Voyager does well there because Voyager fans are more comfortable in that environment, not because they are "casual" fans. Here, it is a sport to put Voyager down whenever possible.

All polls on the internet are a joke, even the ones on the TrekBBS. However, it's always a kick when Janeway or Voyager comes out on top.
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Old February 7 2012, 03:18 AM   #39
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In my country casual fans will be TNG fans. To go past TNG you had to have been a bit more into your Trek. And if you're an ENT fan you have to be hardcore as it was almost impossible to watch, being aired at 11pm or later.
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Old February 7 2012, 05:26 AM   #40
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Season one TNG.

Yar looked like a man.

Dee was a butter ball. (I was 10 when this started, even regular sized women looked like a Brobdingnagian to me.)

Gates had the dye job of a woman twice her age.

"Sigh"

I don't think my ears pricked up about any of the female guest stars till Ashley Judd was making time with the boy genius.

Yar didn't look like any man I've ever seen-short haircut does not equal "looks like a man."

And season 1 Gates is hot.
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Old February 7 2012, 05:33 AM   #41
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I've already qualified that I was 10 and it was the 80s when I formed that opinion. Although I'm not saying that 10 year olds are stupid, but more so that my penis had much quieter less demanding voice back then.

I like Gates later on.

I like Marina later on.

But Crosby just doesn't ring my bell so she might as well be a man.

I'm blaming it on the wardrobe and make up departments more so than the casting.
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Old February 7 2012, 08:16 AM   #42
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It's really only between Kirk and Janeway, isn't it? I mean, Picard was basically a diplomat in a more settled era, Sisko was more like a mayor, and didn't really face continual tests of courage, and Archer is an incompetent nitwit who got his captaincy either through blatant nepotism, or by rigging a raffle in his favor.

But Kirk and Janeway found themselves in repeatedly dangerous situations facing the unknown. But I give the nod to Kirk-he only had Spock as an ace in the hole -Janeway had Tuvok, the Doctor, and later Seven as a collection of super-beings.
Mayor? Sisko was the commanding officer on the front lines of the most devastating war ever depicted in Star Trek. Not only that, but more importantly, the show depicted repeated acts of bravery and heroism, including the consequences of said acts, something Voyager never did.
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Old February 7 2012, 08:24 AM   #43
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There's action hero courage. There's dark night of the soul courage. There's sending good men and women into battle to face near certain death courage. All the captains stepped up to the plate when they needed to in different ways.
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Old February 7 2012, 02:47 PM   #44
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I don't post on startrek.com, but I do try to vote in their polls whenever I happen to be on their site. I didn't vote in this poll, though......interesting results.
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Old February 7 2012, 04:21 PM   #45
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Because she isn''t black?

I hate it when people play the race card for no reason.


Nowhere did I say it was because she was not black. I never even thought that. I never play the race card.
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