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Old February 4 2012, 03:56 PM   #31
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One thing that bothers me about the episode is Spock's line after they're all back on the Enterprise. The "Ah, yes, the girl" bit. Strangely dismissive and uninterested, considering she was his wife to be and almost got either him or Kirk killed. (And it's kind of jarring to hear him use the word "girl", as T'Pring was supposedly the same age as he was - they were bonded when they were 7, after all.)
I don't think it's unlikely for males to refer to females of their age as "girl". Unless both are over 40, it's rather common IMO - on Earth, or on Vulcan.
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Old February 4 2012, 04:36 PM   #32
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Good gravy, all these posts and no one has yet mentioned Gerald Fried's absolutely essential contribution to "Amok Time." What great work from his pen and from the musicians as well.
It's also the national anthem of Zoidberg's home planet on Futurama!
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Old February 4 2012, 04:42 PM   #33
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One thing that bothers me about the episode is Spock's line after they're all back on the Enterprise. The "Ah, yes, the girl" bit. Strangely dismissive and uninterested, considering she was his wife to be and almost got either him or Kirk killed. (And it's kind of jarring to hear him use the word "girl", as T'Pring was supposedly the same age as he was - they were bonded when they were 7, after all.)
I don't think it's unlikely for males to refer to females of their age as "girl". Unless both are over 40, it's rather common IMO - on Earth, or on Vulcan.
Could get your ass kicked, though. I've occasionally given a firendly "Good morning, girls" at work, only to be roundly rebuked with a cold "We're WOMEN, not girls!" That led me to start saying "Good morning, ladies." Unfortunately I run into someone who doesn't like being called "lady" once in a while. Maybe I'll just smile and nod from now on.
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Old February 4 2012, 05:36 PM   #34
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I usually just say "Good morning, Humans."

Of course, then I got the animal lover people on my ass.
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Old February 4 2012, 05:59 PM   #35
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I usually just say "Good morning, Humans."

Of course, then I got the animal lover people on my ass.
You should then be saying "Live long and prosper, Earth people". Hey, nobody can deny he's from Earth!

Forbin, I think at that point one notices that there's no way he will please everyone and just does whatever he feels like it. :P
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Old February 4 2012, 06:33 PM   #36
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Yeah, it's just that Spock is usually precise with words.

(Or at least he yells THE WOMEN!!!!!! instead of THE GIRLS!!!! )
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Old February 5 2012, 02:28 AM   #37
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Spock only refers to T'Pring as ''the girl'' because he's repeating McCoy's phrase. ''Ah, yes, the girl.''
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Old February 5 2012, 03:17 AM   #38
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Another bit about logic: T'Pring couldn't have known that Spock would bring any friends along, so she must have changed her plans on the proverbial dime when she saw Kirk. After all, Spock might have killed Stonn. So this was a way to get Stonn without risking his life - something he didn't reason out as quickly. Oh, how he makes her pay for that insult to his masculine pride in the fanfiction!
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Old February 5 2012, 04:50 AM   #39
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Oh, how he makes her pay for that insult to his masculine pride in the fanfiction!


It seems we frequent the same websites.
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Old February 5 2012, 01:54 PM   #40
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It's not likely canon, but weren't T'Pring and Stonn blown to smithereens on a exploding shuttlecraft in a '90s TREK DC-comic?

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Old February 5 2012, 04:29 PM   #41
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Forbin, I think at that point one notices that there's no way he will please everyone and just does whatever he feels like it. :P
I kinda did. I even got so annoyed once that I said "Act like an adult and I'll call you a woman." (and ran like hell).
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Old February 5 2012, 04:36 PM   #42
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We have to remember that Spock's betrothal to T'pring was an arranged one, an agreement between their parents. In that situation Spock reveals he really doesn't have genuine feeling for T'pring other than a sense of responsibility. When his fever had passed and T'pring's character revealed it's easy to see how he'd have no further interest in her.

Interesting that Sarek managed to break tradition to marry Amanda, a human woman he clearly loved. And yet Sarek is pissed for decades because his son didn't follow his wishes and adhere to expectations. I'm quite sure Sarek raised a few eyebrows when he chose to marry an Earth woman.
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Old February 5 2012, 07:58 PM   #43
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Sarek managed to break tradition to marry Amanda, a human woman he clearly loved. And yet Sarek is pissed for decades because his son didn't follow his wishes.
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I don't think it's unlikely for males to refer to females of their age as "girl". Unless both are over 40, it's rather common IMO - on Earth, or on Vulcan.
Given the male oriented, male dominated, culture of Starfleet of that time period, a culture that Spock had been living in for years, for Spock to refer to T'Pring as "the girl" seem quite likely.

Why would Spock be referring to T'Pring in a respectful way?

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I've occasionally given a firendly "Good morning, girls" at work, only to be roundly rebuked with a cold "We're WOMEN, not girls!"
I seem to get a lot of mileage out of "Dear."

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Old February 5 2012, 09:34 PM   #44
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Good gravy, all these posts and no one has yet mentioned Gerald Fried's absolutely essential contribution to "Amok Time." What great work from his pen and from the musicians as well.
It's also the national anthem of Zoidberg's home planet on Futurama!

it's funny, I read that too quickly and saw it as Gerald Ford's contribution to "Amok Time."
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Old February 6 2012, 12:49 AM   #45
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classic episode of course with the famous ending.
"Captain?" "Jim!" and Spock's reaction
I loved that bit. That episode was a good look into who Spock truly is as a being. I've watched it several times and it never gets old.
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