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Old February 3 2012, 04:40 PM   #2926
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Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

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I do believe they are talking about an optional LCARS frame.

I doubt I'd use it to watch the show properly, but it would definitely be a cool thing to do provided they made sure it framed the image without obscuring anything.
Yeah. It would also be a handy way of accessing multiple audio commentaries too if you like that sort of thing.
...or it would be a fun way to present any text commentaries that hopefully the Okudas will be asked to provide!

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Old February 3 2012, 06:50 PM   #2927
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^It's what LCARS was made for!
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Old February 3 2012, 07:53 PM   #2928
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That would be a great place to add Okuda-style pop-up trivia as well
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I do believe they are talking about an optional LCARS frame.

I doubt I'd use it to watch the show properly, but it would definitely be a cool thing to do provided they made sure it framed the image without obscuring anything.
Yeah. It would also be a handy way of accessing multiple audio commentaries too if you like that sort of thing.
...or it would be a fun way to present any text commentaries that hopefully the Okudas will be asked to provide!

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Old February 3 2012, 08:04 PM   #2929
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Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

They could also include a TrekBBS text commentary:

Maxwell Everett: Notice how the DP selected a film stock with a heavier grain for all shots set on Quo'nos.
GalaxyX: There should be ten ships here, but CBS was too cheap, so there's only four. Basterds!
Flake: This moment right here is when the project went terribly awry: CGI Enterprise! And the original shot lost forever.
Random poster-by: Why is this not in 16:9, I heard there is more image on the neg.
Sho: <something about ship windows>
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Old February 3 2012, 10:25 PM   #2930
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They could also include a TrekBBS text commentary:

Maxwell Everett: Notice how the DP selected a film stock with a heavier grain for all shots set on Quo'nos.
GalaxyX: There should be ten ships here, but CBS was too cheap, so there's only four. Basterds!
Flake: This moment right here is when the project went terribly awry: CGI Enterprise! And the original shot lost forever.
Random poster-by: Why is this not in 16:9, I heard there is more image on the neg.
Sho: <something about ship windows>
lolol, but only if there is an OPTION to turn this off
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Old February 4 2012, 12:10 AM   #2931
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Don't forget other nitpick gems appearing during the nerd commentry like:

The font is slightly altered and a lighter shade of blue!
The warp stars STILL do not go in the right direction based on the current perspective of the ship!
There is only one window above the airlock!
The saucer rim windows are lit!
There are two black bars on the RCS thrusters, CGI Blasphemy!
The transporter beams do not reflect onto the perspex floor! (they didn't in the original though!)
They didn't include the light bleed from the shuttlebays on the CGI model!
They didn't fix the stars on the ringed planet flyby!
Why didn't they invest a bit more money in Tasha Yar's stuntdouble WIG????
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Old February 4 2012, 12:38 AM   #2932
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Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

Actually, now that I've viewed in HD I'm no-longer sure that's a light-leak by the shuttle bay but is light shining around the shuttlebay door. The higher clarity of the HD makes that a bit more clear.
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Old February 4 2012, 12:58 AM   #2933
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Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

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Ok, you can call off the dogs. My disc was in the mail when I got home!

I still have to wait until tomorrow to watch it though.
See it yet??
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Old February 4 2012, 07:42 AM   #2934
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They didn't fix the stars on the ringed planet flyby!
Now this IS a valid complaint. I'm sure the original version was like that due to limitations. That transition looks so off, It completely takes me out of the moment, and is definitely something that should have been fixed, along with the direction of the starfield motion when the Enterprise is making those 3 passes toward the screen.

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They could also include a TrekBBS text commentary:

Maxwell Everett: Notice how the DP selected a film stock with a heavier grain for all shots set on Quo'nos.
GalaxyX: There should be ten ships here, but CBS was too cheap, so there's only four. Basterds!
Flake: This moment right here is when the project went terribly awry: CGI Enterprise! And the original shot lost forever.
Random poster-by: Why is this not in 16:9, I heard there is more image on the neg.
Sho: <something about ship windows>
Do it twitter style, like that Mac screensaver
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Old February 4 2012, 08:05 AM   #2935
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Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

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Now this IS a valid complaint. I'm sure the original version was like that due to limitations. That transition looks so off, It completely takes me out of the moment, and is definitely something that should have been fixed, along with the direction of the starfield motion when the Enterprise is making those 3 passes toward the screen.
No, it's not. I doubt it was due to limitations, IMHO it's clearly meant to be an interesting-looking wipe between shots. If it was due to limitations, the line wouldn't be within the rings but at their edge. It makes no sense for the transition not to happen anyway, as the scale difference would then be completely ridiculous. I've always considered that effect very cool personally.

Some people just want to see "mistakes" everywhere.
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Old February 4 2012, 12:43 PM   #2936
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The mis-matched stars are a mistake that happened between re-doing the opening sequence and when it goes to the one that didn't need to be remade. It's always been there and even the creators of this project had said it's a "beloved mistake" they left in as an "easter egg" of sorts.
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Old February 4 2012, 01:55 PM   #2937
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Yeah, but why not just treat it as an acceptable transition instead of getting in a tizzy over it? The planets disappear when the Enterprise goes past where they should be...how come no one complains about that?

(The answer is, "Because it doesn't matter.")
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Old February 4 2012, 02:41 PM   #2938
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Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

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Now this IS a valid complaint. I'm sure the original version was like that due to limitations. That transition looks so off, It completely takes me out of the moment, and is definitely something that should have been fixed, along with the direction of the starfield motion when the Enterprise is making those 3 passes toward the screen.
No, it's not. I doubt it was due to limitations, IMHO it's clearly meant to be an interesting-looking wipe between shots. If it was due to limitations, the line wouldn't be within the rings but at their edge. It makes no sense for the transition not to happen anyway, as the scale difference would then be completely ridiculous. I've always considered that effect very cool personally.

Some people just want to see "mistakes" everywhere.
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The mis-matched stars are a mistake that happened between re-doing the opening sequence and when it goes to the one that didn't need to be remade. It's always been there and even the creators of this project had said it's a "beloved mistake" they left in as an "easter egg" of sorts.
Like Sho I just can't see this as a mistake or a mis-match.
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Old February 4 2012, 06:27 PM   #2939
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In Okuda's interview his discussed how it was originally in the credits as a transition, because that was the only way to do change between the new planet shot and the old enterprise shot. He then stated that they decided to keep the TNG-R credits consistent with the original and recreate the transition as it was.
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Old February 4 2012, 06:38 PM   #2940
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In Okuda's interview his discussed how it was originally in the credits as a transition, because that was the only way to do change between the new planet shot and the old enterprise shot. He then stated that they decided to keep the TNG-R credits consistent with the original and recreate the transition as it was.
Well they did change it a little. The stars in the outer ring now match the ones with the Enterprise, instead of veering off with the others. Which now just makes the whole thing look even more confusing.

But whatever, I can live with it. The overall sequence is still pretty amazing.
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