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Old February 2 2012, 09:09 PM   #16
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Although I always wondered why a logical Vulcan woman would need to cause this much trouble, and someone's death, to change partners. Surely there were legal options in such an advanced society.

Also wondered why a logical Vulcan woman would wear so much makeup and jewelry. Then again, it WAS her wedding.
Cuz Vulcans talk a good game about logic, but in the end, they're hypocrites who use logic to rationalize whatever bad behavior they want to get up to.
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Old February 2 2012, 11:29 PM   #17
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Although I always wondered why a logical Vulcan woman would need to cause this much trouble, and someone's death, to change partners. Surely there were legal options in such an advanced society.
Cuz Vulcans talk a good game about logic, but in the end, they're hypocrites who use logic to rationalize whatever bad behavior they want to get up to.
This. And the fact that if the ladies decide to walk out of their arranged marriages, their husbands-to-be will die of the blood fever, so it's probably kind of discouraged.
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Old February 3 2012, 12:03 AM   #18
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One thing that always resonated with me was when Spock asks McCoy to beam down with him and Kirk. McCoy is genuinely touched to be considered one of Spock's closest friends. No sarcasm. No humerous coments. Just a simple: "I would be honored, sir."
It was moments like this that helped show that in the end, push comes to shove, Bones and Spock were about as close friends as one could get.
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Old February 3 2012, 12:35 AM   #19
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You'd have to be really dumb to cross a Vulcan woman.
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Old February 3 2012, 12:43 AM   #20
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One thing that always resonated with me was when Spock asks McCoy to beam down with him and Kirk. McCoy is genuinely touched to be considered one of Spock's closest friends. No sarcasm. No humerous coments. Just a simple: "I would be honored, sir."
It was moments like this that helped show that in the end, push comes to shove, Bones and Spock were about as close friends as one could get.
Yes, that's an excellent scene. Whenever I watch TOS nowadays it's this kind of scenes I notice - the small things which together form the Big Three. The Kirk - Spock - McCoy dynamic is what makes TOS TOS, in my opinion.
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Old February 3 2012, 01:05 AM   #21
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I love how Spocks emotional outbust is not a joke, not a gimick but does show his real affection for his captain and friend to the point he "dropped his guard" for a moment. Very touching.
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Old February 3 2012, 02:40 AM   #22
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This remains a favorite episode for me, as I saw it in the late 1980s when I was not quite a teenager yet, but starting to appreciate the types of issues this episode delat with at the time. Excellent story, characterisation moments and action.
A solid Trek.
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Old February 3 2012, 09:21 AM   #23
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Good gravy, all these posts and no one has yet mentioned Gerald Fried's absolutely essential contribution to "Amok Time." What great work from his pen and from the musicians as well.
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Old February 3 2012, 02:10 PM   #24
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Good gravy, all these posts and no one has yet mentioned Gerald Fried's absolutely essential contribution to "Amok Time." What great work from his pen and from the musicians as well.
Good point. Amok Time's musical score is excellent.
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Old February 3 2012, 05:27 PM   #25
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Watched it for the first time a few days ago and it felt weird to have that whole irrational ritual with the Vulcans. Like Kirk aptly notes, "I always figured [you choose your mates] very logically". The episode itself wasn't bad, I knew beforehand what really is McCoy giving Kirk in that injection - generally I liked (though not loved) the episode. Not loved mainly because it felt illogical to have Vulcans... mate like animals, to put it shortly. Yeah, I know the repressed, calm ones are the quickest to crack down, but "Naked Time" has done it (Spock breaking up about his mother) much better IMO.
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Good gravy, all these posts and no one has yet mentioned Gerald Fried's absolutely essential contribution to "Amok Time." What great work from his pen and from the musicians as well.
Good point. Amok Time's musical score is excellent.
I agree some great music score in this episode !!!!
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Old February 3 2012, 09:53 PM   #27
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I would love a nod to this great score in the next film. That would be fun.
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Old February 4 2012, 12:17 AM   #28
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Watched it for the first time a few days ago and it felt weird to have that whole irrational ritual with the Vulcans. Like Kirk aptly notes, "I always figured [you choose your mates] very logically". The episode itself wasn't bad, I knew beforehand what really is McCoy giving Kirk in that injection - generally I liked (though not loved) the episode. Not loved mainly because it felt illogical to have Vulcans... mate like animals, to put it shortly. Yeah, I know the repressed, calm ones are the quickest to crack down, but "Naked Time" has done it (Spock breaking up about his mother) much better IMO.
It sort of never bothered me because I just always figured that a) Vulcans are very emotional and volatile under all that reason and logic and thus NEED the logic - to the point of overdoing it - to keep themselves in control and that b) Spock, being the only one really giving us insight about what Vulcans are like, exaggerated a lot. After all, he, being half human, had to be more Vulcan than Vulcans to be accepted.
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Old February 4 2012, 01:47 AM   #29
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It is a fine episode. I watched it for the first time last Sunday. Many things made it an enjoyable and memorable experience for me. I thought Spock's curious behavior was intriguing, as was Pon farr altogether. Finally seeing Vulcan was a treat too.

I had a couple of verbal outbursts during the episode; once at T'Pring when she chose Kirk as her champion and then again at McCoy when the fight was over. "CPR! CPR! CPR!"

The fact that Vulcans didn't choose their mates by any logical means didn't bother me. My only qualm with the episode was Kirk's reasoning for accepting the role of T'Pring's Champion. It felt, to me, less like something Kirk chose to do and more like something the writer forced him to do.

It's one of my favorite episodes as well.
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Old February 4 2012, 02:02 AM   #30
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One thing that bothers me about the episode is Spock's line after they're all back on the Enterprise. The "Ah, yes, the girl" bit. Strangely dismissive and uninterested, considering she was his wife to be and almost got either him or Kirk killed. (And it's kind of jarring to hear him use the word "girl", as T'Pring was supposedly the same age as he was - they were bonded when they were 7, after all.)
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