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Old January 30 2012, 05:25 AM   #16
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Re: Masterpiece Classic: Downton Abbey 2x01

Love this show! I was in tears for the last twenty minutes of tonight's episode. I couldn't stand to see the looks on the faces of the staff...

Did anyone catch the preview for next week? Who could that burned soldier be that Lord Grantham can't seem to recognize? I can't recognize him either!

I really can't stand Bates' wife; I know she's got something devious planned for him...and that silly O'Brien writing her a letter to find Bates! At least O'Brien sees she made a mistake doing that. Can't wait for next the episode.
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Old January 31 2012, 12:19 PM   #17
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A friend recommended it to me, so just before Christmas I bought the boxset of both series and went though both series in a few days. Maggie Smith really makes the show, love it.
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Old January 31 2012, 04:37 PM   #18
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I read that PBS cut scenes for the American viewing. I went on to Amazon and purchased both sets, uncut UK version.

William's death was so sad. However, I figured it would happen. As soon I knew he was going off to war with Matthew I figured he was a Red Shirt.

I did not see them killing Matthew as the family having to adjust to the new heir was a large part of season 1. (They had already killed the heir Patrick and I did not think they would go there again.) However, I did not see them giving him a spinal injury either.

That was a great way to get rid of Lavina and give Mary an opening. But, now she is indebted to Sir Newspaper, and I don't see him giving her up.

Edith is growing on me. I love that she volunteered to take care of William.

The Dowager Countess is my favorite. I love how she made the Vicar marry Daisy and William. The old gal knows how to get things done. Her talking on the telephone was a hoot.
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Old February 1 2012, 10:14 PM   #19
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I'm still too upset about the last episode to talk about it yet. William.
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Old February 1 2012, 10:20 PM   #20
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Everyone raves about this show. I have no idea what it is... but apparently I need to watch it!
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Old February 1 2012, 10:28 PM   #21
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Everyone raves about this show. I have no idea what it is... but apparently I need to watch it!
Yes, you do!
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Old February 1 2012, 11:07 PM   #22
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Pretty girls in proper clothes make for a decent series.

Actually, I don't really watch it regularly, but what I have seen is OK. Maggie Smith is good in it. Mind you, I don't think it's a patch on Upstairs, Downstairs. I really enjoyed its original ITV production, and the BBC mini-series updating of it a couple of Christmases ago. I think it's coming back for a full series later this year. Looking forward to that.
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Old February 2 2012, 12:16 AM   #23
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Pretty girls in proper clothes make for a decent series.

Actually, I don't really watch it regularly, but what I have seen is OK. Maggie Smith is good in it. Mind you, I don't think it's a patch on Upstairs, Downstairs. I really enjoyed its original ITV production, and the BBC mini-series updating of it a couple of Christmases ago. I think it's coming back for a full series later this year. Looking forward to that.
I thought they packed too much onto the Christmas episodes of upstairs downstairs.
The next series of upstairs downstairs starts February 19th, but because of Jean Marsh's stroke I've heard she is missing from a few eps.http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...y-heidi-thomas
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Old February 2 2012, 12:34 AM   #24
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Pretty girls in proper clothes make for a decent series.

Actually, I don't really watch it regularly, but what I have seen is OK. Maggie Smith is good in it. Mind you, I don't think it's a patch on Upstairs, Downstairs. I really enjoyed its original ITV production, and the BBC mini-series updating of it a couple of Christmases ago. I think it's coming back for a full series later this year. Looking forward to that.
I've been considering watching that but I have no idea if it's good or I'd like it. I only started watching Downton Abbey awhile ago when I found it on Netflix. I had never heard of it before, and suddenly it seems hugely popular, even here!
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Old February 2 2012, 12:42 AM   #25
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I read that PBS cut scenes for the American viewing. I went on to Amazon and purchased both sets, uncut UK version.
Well, they cut the commercials...

Seriously, though. When the first season aired on Masterpiece, the seven episodes were re-edited to fit into four 90-minute slots. We didn't lose anything, but some scenes were rearranged.

For the second season, PBS is airing it without the commercials, and they combined the first two episodes into a single movie-length premiere.
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Old February 2 2012, 01:48 AM   #26
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Pretty girls in proper clothes make for a decent series.

Actually, I don't really watch it regularly, but what I have seen is OK. Maggie Smith is good in it. Mind you, I don't think it's a patch on Upstairs, Downstairs. I really enjoyed its original ITV production, and the BBC mini-series updating of it a couple of Christmases ago. I think it's coming back for a full series later this year. Looking forward to that.
I thought they packed too much onto the Christmas episodes of upstairs downstairs.
The next series of upstairs downstairs starts February 19th, but because of Jean Marsh's stroke I've heard she is missing from a few eps.http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...y-heidi-thomas
That's true, a lot did happen. I figured it was simply because they wanted to cram lots of action into the mini-series, in order to better attract a full series order. Hopefully now they have that, it will be paced/structured in a somewhat calmer fashion. In particular, with these types of show, you need to build up some emotional engagement with the characters before you throw them into dire circumstances. The Xmas episodes rushed that process too much so lacked some impact.

I didn't realise it was starting so soon! Thanks for the heads-up! Something to look forward to on the telly.

Shame about Jean Marsh. Her performance was the best thing about the Xmas run, esp. in the first episode.

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Pretty girls in proper clothes make for a decent series.

Actually, I don't really watch it regularly, but what I have seen is OK. Maggie Smith is good in it. Mind you, I don't think it's a patch on Upstairs, Downstairs. I really enjoyed its original ITV production, and the BBC mini-series updating of it a couple of Christmases ago. I think it's coming back for a full series later this year. Looking forward to that.
I've been considering watching that but I have no idea if it's good or I'd like it. I only started watching Downton Abbey awhile ago when I found it on Netflix. I had never heard of it before, and suddenly it seems hugely popular, even here!
If you like Downton, chances are you'll like Upstairs, Downstairs. The 70s original series is now looks very old & creaky, but I think it still holds up in terms of the stories. Another old period series that I think Downton fans would like would be The Forsyte Saga although I should warn you it's filmed in B&W. Back in the land of colour TV is The Onedin Line. More recently (from 90s) but in the same general vein of soapy period drama, there's The House of Elliot, which I think is a woefully underrated series.

I believe the formula for a British series cracking the USA is:

(prettiness of the cast x how many years ago it is set x number of corsets in any given episode)/(number of indecipherable regional dialects)

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Old February 2 2012, 02:02 AM   #27
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I have Forsyte Saga in my instant queue but haven't watched it yet. Is it (or any of the others) terribly sad? I can stand old sets but not too much sadness.
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Old February 2 2012, 02:13 AM   #28
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Assuming you're looking at the old b&w series (I didn't get round to watching the remake they did sometime in the last decade), then I'd say it can be tragic at times, but the overall feel of the series is bittersweet rather than maudlin. A perennial theme is the generational aspect: some things change, some things don't, tragedy and happiness co-exist in families and ebb and flow over time.

If you want a "happier" series, go for one of the other series I mentioned instead. House of Elliot has a lighter feel (though obviously like any drama it some sad events within it), partly because it's set in the roaring 20s and the business the sisters work in is naturally more cheery. I really liked it a lot.
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I loved house of Elliot, and would love to watch all the Onedin line but I have only caught parts of the odd episode on what was UK drama and yesterday.
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Old February 2 2012, 07:53 PM   #30
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I loved house of Elliot, and would love to watch all the Onedin line but I have only caught parts of the odd episode on what was UK drama and yesterday.
I only saw Onedin Line in reruns too, but have managed to catch a pretty good percentage of it I think. The stories and relationships are engaging, and even the sets aren't all that rickety.

Funnily enough, it reminded me very strongly of Howard's Way, which I did see first-run. Don't know if you ever saw that; a modern-day drama (glorified soap, really, like all the series mentioned in this thread) set in the yachting world. Great series that, with a cracking theme tune, and so wonderfully redolent of the 1980s.

Given the distance from that era now, I suppose you could even call it a period drama now. Certainly the clothes qualify.
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