The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread - Page 8

trekker670 · February 1 2012, 08:07 PM

I just got my disc and watched SotF. I didn't think the opening shot was too bad. The moving starfield was odd, but not really a huge deal or enough to ruin the shot for me. The up-conversion of the lost scene was done well. It was noticeable, but only because I was looking for it.

I never noticed it on the VHS's, but the transition with the ringed planet in the S3+ credits is very noticeable. I watched the opening credits twice and wasn't expecting anything, but that transition really stood out. It's almost disorienting.

I'm very impressed so far, and that's coming from someone with only a 32" 720p TV with only stereo sound. I'm going to try and ration the last 2 episode to last the week.

JJohnson · February 1 2012, 08:11 PM

My brother and I watched about an hour of Farpoint, and the HD resolution is amazing in the detail it brings out!

We did notice however, that in the holodeck, you can see Brent Spiner's natural skin tone on his neck, hands, and lips; earlier, his lips are remarkably pink on the battle bridge, as if he'd been kissing Yar and got some of her lipstick on him.

The ship at warp at the odd angle is STILL there. Deneb looks a bit 'meh.' Especially with what seem like 20 of the same establishing shot without much, if any variation. I would've preferred a CG planet so we can get more details on the planet, and new angles of the Enterprise in orbit.

As someone stated before, the transporter effect doesn't reflect on the floor as you would expect if it were real. Also, when Riker along beams up to the stardrive section, his transporter effect doesn't look like it lines up quite right.

There is noticeable grain on the image so overall, while the colors are brighter and the detail is sharper, there's still a 'muted' feeling to the episode.

When the Enterprise fires aft torpedoes, it looks painfully like a model. Here, CG would've been an improvement in mine eyes. I'll finish up the episode tonight. Overall, I have to say I much enjoy the HD over the SD, but I wish they would take a TOS-R view and make improvements when you can to enhance the suspension of disbelief (makeup flaws, FX improvements, CG planets/ships).

gaghyogi49 · February 1 2012, 08:17 PM

The flashing, ventral position light is missing. It was very big and noticeable in the original episode, now it is not flashing at all, while the Enterprise-D's light keeps on flashing merrily. ;-)

BillJ · February 1 2012, 08:20 PM

JJohnson wrote:

When the Enterprise fires aft torpedoes, it looks painfully like a model. Here, CG would've been an improvement in mine eyes. I'll finish up the episode tonight. Overall, I have to say I much enjoy the HD over the SD, but I wish they would take a TOS-R view and make improvements when you can to enhance the suspension of disbelief (makeup flaws, FX improvements, CG planets/ships).

Can't disagree more. I want as much of the original episodes to remain intact as possible.

davejames · February 1 2012, 08:23 PM

trekker670 wrote:

I never noticed it on the VHS's, but the transition with the ringed planet in the S3+ credits is very noticeable. I watched the opening credits twice and wasn't expecting anything, but that transition really stood out. It's almost disorienting.

Yeah I wasn't crazy about that either. Now there's one starfield in the inner ring, and another starfield in the outer ring, going in opposite directions.

It just makes the whole thing look even odder than before.

22 Stars · February 1 2012, 08:37 PM

Just arrived! Is there supposed to be a $5 coupon inside for S1?

davejames · February 1 2012, 08:45 PM

Seriously though, what were the producers thinking changing Troi's appearance so much from the pilot? Watching it again I was struck by how much prettier she was, and how much more warmth she projected on screen than in later episodes.

That really cold and severe look they gave her just didn't look good on her at all.

GNDN · February 1 2012, 08:48 PM

22 Stars wrote:

Just arrived! Is there supposed to be a $5 coupon inside for S1?

Only heard from UK buyers about a £5 rebate coupon. No mention of it from US buyers.

My fellow Americans, anyone get a coupon?

J. Allen · February 1 2012, 08:48 PM

22 Stars wrote:

Just arrived! Is there supposed to be a $5 coupon inside for S1?

I didn't see one in mine. A $5 coupon would certainly make me more motivated to buy the first season on blu-ray, especially since I have to watch my pennies anyway.

Borjis · February 1 2012, 08:54 PM

Maxwell Everett wrote:

RAMA wrote:

Remastering: The HD transfer is clearer, brighter, but there is a bit too much grain. I know the logic behind leaving it there, but hopefully they will use some noise reduction for the season 1 discs.

They probably have already. But my personal opinion is that they should absolutely not use any (or any further) noise reduction than what we see here on this sampler disc. On the original camera negative, the grain isn't really noise, it's the actual picture information -- the silver halide crystals (or grains) that were exposed to light. This is the way film looks. I say, keep the fine detail.

Agreed.

don't mess with the grain!

There has seldom, if ever, been a grain reduction that didn't go overboard and make things worse.

22 Stars · February 1 2012, 09:04 PM

Thanks guys. Maybe they will make us cut the proof of purchase from our inserts to qualify or something....

Ok watching EaF, my system is a 1080p projector, approx 100" diagonal screen with a 5.1 DTS audio tuner. It looks amazing, and I have to say the sound is really impressing me as much as the picture!

I am going to wait for the sun to set, so I have better theater conditions in my living room!

GNDN · February 1 2012, 09:16 PM

J. Allen wrote:

22 Stars wrote:

Just arrived! Is there supposed to be a $5 coupon inside for S1?

I didn't see one in mine. A $5 coupon would certainly make me more motivated to buy the first season on blu-ray, especially since I have to watch my pennies anyway.

CBS may figure that US Trek fans who are willing to buy the sampler don't require the added incentive to purchase S1 (even though S1 seems to be the most maligned of TNG)

It was mentioned somewhere that the visual improvements of HD may bring some new respect for early TNG and I hope that's the case as the look and feel of the show was quite unique compared to later seasons.

DostoyevskyClone · February 1 2012, 09:32 PM

This new release of EaF has got me rethinking my position on the first season (which I thought was painfully mediocre at times) - it definitely has a new look and feel now with this remaster. The story obviously hasn't changed (and I just watched EaF a couple of weeks ago in fact), but I found myself enjoying the pilot so much more watching it in Blu-ray. I wonder how much of it is novelty factor? Will we all still feel as impressed on the 16th, 17th, and 18th episodes of season one?

J. Allen · February 1 2012, 09:34 PM

22 Stars wrote:

Thanks guys. Maybe they will make us cut the proof of purchase from our inserts to qualify or something....

Ok watching EaF, my system is a 1080p projector, approx 100" diagonal screen with a 5.1 DTS audio tuner. It looks amazing, and I have to say the sound is really impressing me as much as the picture!

I am going to wait for the sun to set, so I have better theater conditions in my living room!

A proofs of purchase thing would be cool, but then I'd have to cut into my box!

GNDN wrote:

CBS may figure that US Trek fans who are willing to buy the sampler don't require the added incentive to purchase S1 (even though S1 seems to be the most maligned of TNG)

It was mentioned somewhere that the visual improvements of HD may bring some new respect for early TNG and I hope that's the case as the look and feel of the show was quite unique compared to later seasons.

True, but every little bit helps!

DostoyevskyClone wrote:

This new release of EaF has got me rethinking my position on the first season (which I thought was painfully mediocre at times) - it definitely has a new look and feel now with this remaster. The story obviously hasn't changed (and I just watched EaF a couple of weeks ago in fact), but I found myself enjoying the pilot so much more watching it in Blu-ray. I wonder how much of it is novelty factor? Will we all still feel as impressed on the 16th, 17th, and 18th episodes of season one?

I rather liked Season 1 and 2 of TNG, so for me, this is all a welcome treat.

trekfan_1 · February 1 2012, 09:41 PM

For the most part the picture quality has blown me away. I've had to tinker with my TV's settings as it actually looks too bright.

BTW did anyone else think the picture looked fuzzy when the Bridge was first revealed in the opening scene of EAFP? It's only fuzzy for a few moments though.

February 1 2012, 08:07 PM	#106
trekker670 Commander	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread I just got my disc and watched SotF. I didn't think the opening shot was too bad. The moving starfield was odd, but not really a huge deal or enough to ruin the shot for me. The up-conversion of the lost scene was done well. It was noticeable, but only because I was looking for it. I never noticed it on the VHS's, but the transition with the ringed planet in the S3+ credits is very noticeable. I watched the opening credits twice and wasn't expecting anything, but that transition really stood out. It's almost disorienting. I'm very impressed so far, and that's coming from someone with only a 32" 720p TV with only stereo sound. I'm going to try and ration the last 2 episode to last the week.

February 1 2012, 08:11 PM	#107
JJohnson Captain Location: Jacksonville, FL	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread My brother and I watched about an hour of Farpoint, and the HD resolution is amazing in the detail it brings out! We did notice however, that in the holodeck, you can see Brent Spiner's natural skin tone on his neck, hands, and lips; earlier, his lips are remarkably pink on the battle bridge, as if he'd been kissing Yar and got some of her lipstick on him. The ship at warp at the odd angle is STILL there. Deneb looks a bit 'meh.' Especially with what seem like 20 of the same establishing shot without much, if any variation. I would've preferred a CG planet so we can get more details on the planet, and new angles of the Enterprise in orbit. As someone stated before, the transporter effect doesn't reflect on the floor as you would expect if it were real. Also, when Riker along beams up to the stardrive section, his transporter effect doesn't look like it lines up quite right. There is noticeable grain on the image so overall, while the colors are brighter and the detail is sharper, there's still a 'muted' feeling to the episode. When the Enterprise fires aft torpedoes, it looks painfully like a model. Here, CG would've been an improvement in mine eyes. I'll finish up the episode tonight. Overall, I have to say I much enjoy the HD over the SD, but I wish they would take a TOS-R view and make improvements when you can to enhance the suspension of disbelief (makeup flaws, FX improvements, CG planets/ships).

February 1 2012, 08:17 PM	#108
gaghyogi49 Lieutenant Commander Location: Germany	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread The flashing, ventral position light is missing. It was very big and noticeable in the original episode, now it is not flashing at all, while the Enterprise-D's light keeps on flashing merrily. ;-)

February 1 2012, 08:37 PM	#111
22 Stars Commodore	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread Just arrived! Is there supposed to be a $5 coupon inside for S1?

February 1 2012, 08:45 PM	#112
davejames Vice Admiral Location: Sac, Ca	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread Seriously though, what were the producers thinking changing Troi's appearance so much from the pilot? Watching it again I was struck by how much prettier she was, and how much more warmth she projected on screen than in later episodes. That really cold and severe look they gave her just didn't look good on her at all.

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February 1 2012, 09:04 PM	#116
22 Stars Commodore	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread Thanks guys. Maybe they will make us cut the proof of purchase from our inserts to qualify or something.... Ok watching EaF, my system is a 1080p projector, approx 100" diagonal screen with a 5.1 DTS audio tuner. It looks amazing, and I have to say the sound is really impressing me as much as the picture! I am going to wait for the sun to set, so I have better theater conditions in my living room!

February 1 2012, 09:32 PM	#118
DostoyevskyClone Captain Location: Bouville, France	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread This new release of EaF has got me rethinking my position on the first season (which I thought was painfully mediocre at times) - it definitely has a new look and feel now with this remaster. The story obviously hasn't changed (and I just watched EaF a couple of weeks ago in fact), but I found myself enjoying the pilot so much more watching it in Blu-ray. I wonder how much of it is novelty factor? Will we all still feel as impressed on the 16th, 17th, and 18th episodes of season one? __________________ "Life is islands of ecstasy in an ocean of ennui, and after the age of thirty land is seldom seen. At best we wander from one much-worn sandbar to the next, soon familiar with each grain of sand we see..." The Dice Man by Luke Rhinehart

February 1 2012, 09:41 PM	#120
trekfan_1 Lieutenant Junior Grade	Re: The OFFICIAL STNG Next Level Bluray watch and review thread For the most part the picture quality has blown me away. I've had to tinker with my TV's settings as it actually looks too bright. BTW did anyone else think the picture looked fuzzy when the Bridge was first revealed in the opening scene of EAFP? It's only fuzzy for a few moments though.