Why I've Come To Like "Angel" Better than "Buffy" - Page 3

Sindatur · January 30 2012, 04:34 PM

Chemahkuu wrote:

Sindatur wrote:

I like Angel better as well.

What's the "tS" for in AtS? The show is simply called Angel?

"Angel the Series", kind of like 'Star Trek' now means the franchise and TOS the original show. It's just to help differentiate.

Ah, OK, I kept having "Angel the Slayer" pop into my head, and knew that was ridiculous.

Thanks

Admiral Buzzkill · January 30 2012, 05:44 PM

Angel never really got off the ground or found a direction - it was hamstrung by Boreanaz's very clear limits.

RoJoHen · January 30 2012, 06:06 PM

My Name Is Legion wrote:

Angel never really got off the ground or found a direction - it was hamstrung by Boreanaz's very clear limits.

Wow. I thought Angel got off the ground with the very first episode, and the story and character arcs were absolutely fantastic. Boreanaz isn't the best actor in the world, I agree, but I think he played the part great.

saturn5 · January 30 2012, 07:38 PM

sonak wrote:

stonester1 wrote:

saturn5 wrote:

Will and Xander are the greatest! (Xander IS Joss and Willow is his favourite character).

With you on this. I love both shows dearly, though Angel a bit more. But interestingly, I do have more warm fuzzies in general about the characters of Buffy. Those two being two of the warmest and fuzziest.

The "Xander is supposed to be a loser in high school even though nobody who looks like Nicholas Brendon would be" thing always amused me. Joss even addressed it in a commentary track, basically saying "that's television."

Yeah, if you've ever watched the unaired pilot they had this girl as Willow;

and they replaced her with this girl

The 11th sexiest woman in the world according to FHM readers. It is a cliche, one reason I'm always amused by the thought of a girl who looks like Buffy having to work in fast food in season 6. The Last Action Hero has a great gag based on this (about the only one in the film)

Ethros · January 30 2012, 08:24 PM

That's a bit of a strange comment, in that not every single attractive girl will become a supermodel or starlet just for being hot. You see hot girls all the time and think "nice, she's hot" and then forget it. Yet if she suddenly became the star of a TV show, or was in a big movie, or became a pop star, she'd easily be appearing in these "Sexiest women on the planet" polls. Look at the most the girls in something like the FHM Top 100, most of them aren't that special.

sonak · January 30 2012, 10:55 PM

saturn5 wrote:

sonak wrote:

stonester1 wrote:

With you on this. I love both shows dearly, though Angel a bit more. But interestingly, I do have more warm fuzzies in general about the characters of Buffy. Those two being two of the warmest and fuzziest.

The "Xander is supposed to be a loser in high school even though nobody who looks like Nicholas Brendon would be" thing always amused me. Joss even addressed it in a commentary track, basically saying "that's television."

Yeah, if you've ever watched the unaired pilot they had this girl as Willow;

and they replaced her with this girl

The 11th sexiest woman in the world according to FHM readers. It is a cliche, one reason I'm always amused by the thought of a girl who looks like Buffy having to work in fast food in season 6. The Last Action Hero has a great gag based on this (about the only one in the film)

I don't think the issue was so much her job, but how supposedly "socially awkward" she was supposed to be, and her "trouble" finding boyfriends.

Yeah, they tried to explain it away by having it be about her being a juvenile delinquent and stuff, but still-that's why premises like "the freshman" just made me laugh-a woman who looks like Sarah Michelle Gellar is going to have an awkward time in college?

riiiiiight.

stonester1 · January 31 2012, 02:49 AM

Ethros wrote:

That's a bit of a strange comment, in that not every single attractive girl will become a supermodel or starlet just for being hot. You see hot girls all the time and think "nice, she's hot" and then forget it. Yet if she suddenly became the star of a TV show, or was in a big movie, or became a pop star, she'd easily be appearing in these "Sexiest women on the planet" polls. Look at the most the girls in something like the FHM Top 100, most of them aren't that special.

Exactly. Out in the real world, hot girls are very common. They even work behind fast food counters. The difference between them and those on TV and FHM...is that they aren't on TV or in FHM.

RoJoHen · January 31 2012, 03:19 AM

If Buffy was really concerned with money, she could have at least tried to get a bartending job at The Bronze. Hot female bartenders make bank, though I suppose the late hours would probably cut into her normal slaying routine.

Admiral Buzzkill · January 31 2012, 03:24 AM

RoJoHen wrote:

My Name Is Legion wrote:

Angel never really got off the ground or found a direction - it was hamstrung by Boreanaz's very clear limits.

Wow. I thought Angel got off the ground with the very first episode, and the story and character arcs were absolutely fantastic. Boreanaz isn't the best actor in the world, I agree, but I think he played the part great.

Meh. Fred was cute and Lorne was funny. I liked it a little better in the last year when Marsters was on.

RoJoHen · January 31 2012, 04:28 AM

Wesley and Cordelia are my favorite Buffyverse characters, and I love how they evolved in "Angel."

stonester1 · January 31 2012, 04:46 AM

Wesley's evolution is an amazing one to watch.

ReadyAndWilling · January 31 2012, 07:09 AM

saturn5 wrote:

I would say Buffy is the better show not least because it simply has more eps.

is this serious? so i guess voyager is better than DS9 and TOS because it has more eps.

ReadyAndWilling · January 31 2012, 07:29 AM

RoJoHen wrote:

If Buffy was really concerned with money, she could have at least tried to get a bartending job at The Bronze. Hot female bartenders make bank, though I suppose the late hours would probably cut into her normal slaying routine.

i find this a highly sexist remark. so i guess all good looking women should just become strippers right?

and people wonder why the geek culture is seen as such an outcast.

Kelthaz · January 31 2012, 07:55 AM

I didn't realize that bartenders also double as strippers. Rojohen, is there something you're not telling us?

saturn5 · January 31 2012, 09:19 AM

RoJoHen wrote:

Wesley and Cordelia are my favorite Buffyverse characters, and I love how they evolved in "Angel."

Yes it was amazing

January 30 2012, 05:44 PM	#32
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Why I've Come To Like "Angel" Better than "Buffy" Angel never really got off the ground or found a direction - it was hamstrung by Boreanaz's very clear limits. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

January 30 2012, 08:24 PM	#35
Ethros Vice Admiral Location: 1123 6536 5321	Re: Why I've Come To Like "Angel" Better than "Buffy" That's a bit of a strange comment, in that not every single attractive girl will become a supermodel or starlet just for being hot. You see hot girls all the time and think "nice, she's hot" and then forget it. Yet if she suddenly became the star of a TV show, or was in a big movie, or became a pop star, she'd easily be appearing in these "Sexiest women on the planet" polls. Look at the most the girls in something like the FHM Top 100, most of them aren't that special.

January 31 2012, 03:19 AM	#38
RoJoHen Awesome Location: Wherever life takes me	Re: Why I've Come To Like "Angel" Better than "Buffy" If Buffy was really concerned with money, she could have at least tried to get a bartending job at The Bronze. Hot female bartenders make bank, though I suppose the late hours would probably cut into her normal slaying routine. __________________ I am the Quintessential Admiral. Get ready to grow your EQUINOX BEARD!

January 31 2012, 04:28 AM	#40
RoJoHen Awesome Location: Wherever life takes me	Re: Why I've Come To Like "Angel" Better than "Buffy" Wesley and Cordelia are my favorite Buffyverse characters, and I love how they evolved in "Angel." __________________ I am the Quintessential Admiral. Get ready to grow your EQUINOX BEARD!

January 31 2012, 04:46 AM	#41
stonester1 Rear Admiral	Re: Why I've Come To Like "Angel" Better than "Buffy" Wesley's evolution is an amazing one to watch. __________________ "New and stirring things are belittled because if they are not belittled, the humiliating question arises, 'Why then are you not taking part in them?' " - H. G. Wells

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January 31 2012, 07:55 AM	#44
Kelthaz Commodore Location: Toronto, Ontario	Re: Why I've Come To Like "Angel" Better than "Buffy" I didn't realize that bartenders also double as strippers. Rojohen, is there something you're not telling us? __________________ "Who are you?! And how did you get in here?!" "I'm the locksmith. And... I'm the locksmith."