Green Arrow (CW) - Page 2

JoeZhang · January 14 2012, 05:54 PM

Kai "the spy" wrote:

SG-17 wrote:

Yeah, this Green Arrow has to be the JLU version, otherwise it will probably flop.

My guess is you guys never read the comics, otherwise you'd know the JLU version is basically the comics version. Post-revamp, that is.

Yes, originally Ollie Queen was a poor Batman knock-off, but the revamp by Denny O'Neil & Neal Adams, turning him into a left-wing bleeding heart playing the conscience of the larger than life heroes of the DCU made him one of the most interesting characters in superhero fiction.

And the 52 revamp seems to have turned him straight back into a poor man's Batman.

Methos · January 14 2012, 06:10 PM

it could actually be pretty good tv if its handled right...

the original comic series where Ollie teamed up with Hal for the Brave and the Bold arc, with his ward Speedy becoming a cocain addict shortly after... those are the sorts of storylines i would love to see the show tackle properly...

M

Greg Cox · January 14 2012, 06:34 PM

Methos wrote:

it could actually be pretty good tv if its handled right...

the original comic series where Ollie teamed up with Hal for the Brave and the Bold arc, with his ward Speedy becoming a cocain addict shortly after... those are the sorts of storylines i would love to see the show tackle properly...

M

I think Speedy was hooked on heroin, not cocaine.

Trekker4747 · January 14 2012, 06:45 PM

Captaindemotion wrote:

I'm surprised that they didn't just make this a Smallville spin-off and get Hartley back. Having said that, I can see the attraction for a totally new slate.

Wonder if this means that the Supermax GA movie is dead?

Making it a Smallville spin-off would likely carry with it a lot of weight they'd have to deal with. The first being GA's relationship with Chloe, Queen's close friendship with Clark/Superman and, of course, dealing with Superman if even only in the background.

Greg Cox · January 14 2012, 07:43 PM

Trekker4747 wrote:

Captaindemotion wrote:

I'm surprised that they didn't just make this a Smallville spin-off and get Hartley back. Having said that, I can see the attraction for a totally new slate.

Wonder if this means that the Supermax GA movie is dead?

Making it a Smallville spin-off would likely carry with it a lot of weight they'd have to deal with. The first being GA's relationship with Chloe, Queen's close friendship with Clark/Superman and, of course, dealing with Superman if even only in the background.

Indeed. Weren't Oliver and Chloe actually married by the end of the series? And you'd be constantly be running into the problem of "well, why doesn't he just get on the phone and call Clark . . . or Aquaman or Black Canary or Cyborg or Zatanna or Martian Manhunter . . . ?"

Better to start fresh, unencumbered by ten years of SMALLVILLE continuity.

Captaindemotion · January 14 2012, 09:07 PM

^ True and true. As I said, I can see the attraction of a clean slate - attracitve to both the writers and fans.

Vendikarr · January 14 2012, 09:22 PM

This will probably get a pilot order, but I was really hoping to see Deadman move forward out of development hell.

JD · January 14 2012, 09:48 PM

I've enjoyed stories I've seen with GA, so I'll be keeping an eye on this. My only real familiarity with the character comes from Smallville, and a couple of anmiated appearances, but I do plan on checking some of his comics when I go back to reading DC stuff.

Kai "the spy" · January 15 2012, 01:05 AM

JoeZhang wrote:

And the 52 revamp seems to have turned him straight back into a poor man's Batman.

Really?! I actually had high hopes for that, with Dan Jurgens doing it. If that's the case, my disappointment in the New 52 is complete. Not that I had hopes of it being fantastic, but they pretty much screwed up completely.

Oh, well. At least The Flash turned out readable. For now.

JoeZhang · January 15 2012, 10:41 AM

Really?!

Yep, he runs a massive multinational that rivals Wayne Enterprises and he runs around using lots of high-tech gadgets while his support team keep an eye on him from the arrow-cave (it's not actually called that but it might as well be).

Steve Mollmann · January 15 2012, 03:42 PM

Andrew Kreisberg was responsible for the second-worst run on Green Arrow after Judd Winnick, so I am not exactly excited.

Gotham Central · January 15 2012, 11:01 PM

OMG....IS THERE SOME FRAKING REASON THAT THEY CANNOT SIMPLY MAKE A NIGHTWING SERIES!

Nightwing would be the ideal character for the CW. He's rich, insanely good-looking, with a troubled background, a complicated family situation, bizarre love life and cool friends. He'd be perfect for that network. Hell a show based on the New Teen Titans...former sidekicks that have grown up...would work well. Yet they insist on warping other less suitable caracters for that network. Why?

There has to be some reason why that character gets no love outside of the comics and an occasional appearance in the animated shows. He never gets used.

Broccoli · January 16 2012, 05:02 AM

Two words: Bat Embargo.

January 19 2012, 12:43 AM

http://www.ksitetv.com/10886/the-cw-...-make-the-cut/

The CW Officially Orders More Pilots: Arrow, Beauty & The Beast, The Carrie Diaries Make The Cut

Good for Green Arrow.

JD · January 19 2012, 12:54 AM

Cool. It'll be interesting to see who they cast as Olly, and what kind of a supporting cast they bring in. Would Black Canary automatically be included with rights for GA, or would she be her own separate thing?

January 14 2012, 06:10 PM	#17
Methos First Officer: USS Aventine Location: Hiding under Gaila's bed...	Re: Green Arrow (CW) it could actually be pretty good tv if its handled right... the original comic series where Ollie teamed up with Hal for the Brave and the Bold arc, with his ward Speedy becoming a cocain addict shortly after... those are the sorts of storylines i would love to see the show tackle properly... M __________________ In Russia, a 122 year old man has passed away, he credited his long life to abtaining from alcohol, tobacco and women. His last words were "I've made a huge mistake."

January 14 2012, 09:07 PM	#21
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: Green Arrow (CW) ^ True and true. As I said, I can see the attraction of a clean slate - attracitve to both the writers and fans. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

January 14 2012, 09:22 PM	#22
Vendikarr Rear Admiral Location: Vendikarr	Re: Green Arrow (CW) This will probably get a pilot order, but I was really hoping to see Deadman move forward out of development hell. __________________ "I can't profess to understand God's plan, but when Christ promised a resurrection of the dead, I just thought he had something a little different in mind." Herschel Green, The Walking Dead

January 14 2012, 09:48 PM	#23
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Green Arrow (CW) I've enjoyed stories I've seen with GA, so I'll be keeping an eye on this. My only real familiarity with the character comes from Smallville, and a couple of anmiated appearances, but I do plan on checking some of his comics when I go back to reading DC stuff. __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

January 15 2012, 03:42 PM	#26
Steve Mollmann Rear Admiral Location: 2010	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Andrew Kreisberg was responsible for the second-worst run on Green Arrow after Judd Winnick, so I am not exactly excited. __________________ "All of time and space. Everywhere and anywhere, every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?" Exploring the Universe

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January 15 2012, 11:01 PM	#27
Gotham Central Vice Admiral Location: Under the Globe with Clark	Re: Green Arrow (CW) OMG....IS THERE SOME FRAKING REASON THAT THEY CANNOT SIMPLY MAKE A NIGHTWING SERIES! Nightwing would be the ideal character for the CW. He's rich, insanely good-looking, with a troubled background, a complicated family situation, bizarre love life and cool friends. He'd be perfect for that network. Hell a show based on the New Teen Titans...former sidekicks that have grown up...would work well. Yet they insist on warping other less suitable caracters for that network. Why? There has to be some reason why that character gets no love outside of the comics and an occasional appearance in the animated shows. He never gets used. __________________ Well maybe I'm the faggot America. I'm not a part of a redneck agenda. Now everybody do the propaganda. And sing along in the age of paranoia Green Day

January 16 2012, 05:02 AM	#28
Broccoli Vice Admiral Location: Broccoli	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Two words: Bat Embargo. __________________ "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

January 19 2012, 12:43 AM	#29
Jetfire Guest	Re: Green Arrow (CW) http://www.ksitetv.com/10886/the-cw-...-make-the-cut/ The CW Officially Orders More Pilots: Arrow, Beauty & The Beast, The Carrie Diaries Make The Cut Good for Green Arrow.

January 19 2012, 12:54 AM	#30
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: Green Arrow (CW) Cool. It'll be interesting to see who they cast as Olly, and what kind of a supporting cast they bring in. Would Black Canary automatically be included with rights for GA, or would she be her own separate thing? __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)