Does It Get Better??? - Page 15

tighr · December 30 2011, 04:59 PM

DonIago wrote:

Also, I thought it was somewhat a shame that in its first two seasons Voyager introduced all of these folks in Engineering, and by the end of the first episode of S3 they've all been eliminated from the show. It was nice having that string of secondary characters.

Joe Carey's not dead!

I'll leave this post spoiler-free.

You_Will_Fail · December 30 2011, 06:52 PM

He said eliminated from the show, he didn't say he was dead.

Guy Gardener · December 31 2011, 12:59 AM

Ayala was in 113 episodes.

In a hundred and 13 episodes, the only person who ever talked to him on camera was Tuvix.

Voyager cared less and less about it's supporting characters every year.

If there had been a season 8, it just would have been 26 pornos staring the Doctor and Seven of Nine.

AdmiralScreed · December 31 2011, 06:24 AM

Tonight, before watching X-Men: First Class, I decided to watch another episode of Voyager.

Flashback: I'm not a TOS fan, but I am a big fan of TUC, so seeing the flashbacks to Tuvok's time on the Excelsior during the events of TUC was very cool. I liked seeing Tuvok butt heads with Sulu and the other crewman of the Excelsior. One thing that bothered me though was the whole "virus" disguised as a repressed memory, or something like that. It didn't make a whole lot of sense.
Overall, a solid episode with some flaws.
6/10

You_Will_Fail · December 31 2011, 06:41 AM

I'm not sure which was worse, "Flashback" or "X Men: First Class"/
They should have simply done a time travel story, the virus angle ruined it.....Janeway was just in Tuvok's head so the whole Sulu becoming aware of them meant NOTHING because it was all just random crap going on in Tuvok's head and then a load of technobabble crap interspersed...just awful.
Actually I might just have to say "Flashback" is even worse than "X Men: First Class" but its a close call.

AdmiralScreed · December 31 2011, 04:59 PM

You_Will_Fail wrote:

Actually I might just have to say "Flashback" is even worse than "X Men: First Class" but its a close call.

I'd actually say the other way around. My brother gave me X-Men: First Class for Christmas, and having never seen it before I thought it was going to be great because most of the critics loved it. Well, suffice it to say I didn't love it, or even really like it for that matter. It was just okay. It had its good moments, but on the whole it wasn't very satisfying. Flashback was at least entertaining.
Anyway, sorry to go off on an X-Men tangent.

Lord Manitou · December 31 2011, 05:03 PM

That's all it was. Tuvok falls victim to his Vulcan physiology. Tuvok had a cerebral virus that healed. Too bad for Tuvok.

Guy Gardener · December 31 2011, 10:54 PM

Tuvok had been syphilitic for the last century.

His brain had been boiling in madness making terrible decisions for the last century.

Whic includes loving his wife.

He got syphilis from a man.

He gave syphilis to Janeway,

It was living thinking feeling sentient syphilis and they killed it.

Respecting all life my ass.

It could have been the last of it's kind.

Killing the last representative of a species is genocide.

Someone should have volunteered as a host.

Although if Tuvix had it, then so does Neelix.

Actually looking at the "training" Tuvok had with Kes.

Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep sexy Melds to teach her how to control her complete toolbox of abilities.

Tuvok probably gave her Syphilis too, and if left untreated, might explain the unusual behaviors she expressed in her final episode.

So Neelix gave it to kes, or kes gave it to Neelix, if they were playing hide the salami, which some schools of thought argue against.

AdmiralScreed · January 1 2012, 01:52 AM

The Chute: Not very good, but not too bad either. I liked the way Janeway handled the situation with the government as well as with the terrorists. Wang's acting was rotten as usual.
5/10

J. Allen · January 1 2012, 01:57 AM

You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through).

The Dominion · January 1 2012, 01:59 AM

Guy Gardener wrote:

Although if Tuvix had it, then so does Neelix.

So Neelix gave it to kes, or kes gave it to Neelix, if they were playing hide the salami, which some schools of thought argue against.

They both gave it to Neelix, double syphilis.

And then Neelix probably gave it to that colony of Talaxians.

The Dominion · January 1 2012, 02:01 AM

Santa Claus wrote:

You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through).

You're on the exciting seasons though, wait till you get to season 3.

AdmiralScreed · January 1 2012, 02:14 AM

Santa Claus wrote:

You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through).

Sorry to hear that. I hope things improve for you. It's not easy to watch a show that you don't enjoy. I know from experience; I tried watching TOS, and half way through the show I had to quit because I was reaaally getting tired of it all.

RoJoHen · January 1 2012, 02:20 AM

Santa Claus wrote:

You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through).

For what it's worth, Seasons 4-7 are almost an entirely different show compared to 1-3, so you may enjoy those more.

J. Allen · January 1 2012, 02:28 AM

The Dominion wrote:

Santa Claus wrote:

You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through).

You're on the exciting seasons though, wait till you get to season 3.

AdmiralScreed wrote:

Santa Claus wrote:

You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through).

Sorry to hear that. I hope things improve for you. It's not easy to watch a show that you don't enjoy. I know from experience; I tried watching TOS, and half way through the show I had to quit because I was reaaally getting tired of it all.

RoJoHen wrote:

Santa Claus wrote:

You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through).

For what it's worth, Seasons 4-7 are almost an entirely different show compared to 1-3, so you may enjoy those more.

I hope the three of you are right, because if you're not, I'm going to come back here and talk behind your back.

December 30 2011, 06:52 PM	#212
You_Will_Fail Fleet Captain Location: Trill, Federation World and Proud	Re: Does It Get Better??? He said eliminated from the show, he didn't say he was dead. __________________ My 30 Favorite Star Trek Episodes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U4y_sR7l7Y My 15 Favorite Star Trek Characters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofz1Zbpkxys

December 31 2011, 12:59 AM	#213
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Does It Get Better??? Ayala was in 113 episodes. In a hundred and 13 episodes, the only person who ever talked to him on camera was Tuvix. Voyager cared less and less about it's supporting characters every year. If there had been a season 8, it just would have been 26 pornos staring the Doctor and Seven of Nine. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

December 31 2011, 06:24 AM	#214
AdmiralScreed Captain Location: Minnesota	Re: Does It Get Better??? Tonight, before watching X-Men: First Class, I decided to watch another episode of Voyager. Flashback: I'm not a TOS fan, but I am a big fan of TUC, so seeing the flashbacks to Tuvok's time on the Excelsior during the events of TUC was very cool. I liked seeing Tuvok butt heads with Sulu and the other crewman of the Excelsior. One thing that bothered me though was the whole "virus" disguised as a repressed memory, or something like that. It didn't make a whole lot of sense. Overall, a solid episode with some flaws. 6/10

December 31 2011, 06:41 AM	#215
You_Will_Fail Fleet Captain Location: Trill, Federation World and Proud	Re: Does It Get Better??? I'm not sure which was worse, "Flashback" or "X Men: First Class"/ They should have simply done a time travel story, the virus angle ruined it.....Janeway was just in Tuvok's head so the whole Sulu becoming aware of them meant NOTHING because it was all just random crap going on in Tuvok's head and then a load of technobabble crap interspersed...just awful. Actually I might just have to say "Flashback" is even worse than "X Men: First Class" but its a close call. __________________ My 30 Favorite Star Trek Episodes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U4y_sR7l7Y My 15 Favorite Star Trek Characters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofz1Zbpkxys

December 31 2011, 05:03 PM	#217
Lord Manitou Lieutenant Commander Location: Michigan	Re: Does It Get Better??? That's all it was. Tuvok falls victim to his Vulcan physiology. Tuvok had a cerebral virus that healed. Too bad for Tuvok. __________________ Janeway #1: Think, people we need options. Janeway #2: I agree captain. http://www.voyagr-ep-memorys.com/

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December 31 2011, 10:54 PM	#218
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Does It Get Better??? Tuvok had been syphilitic for the last century. His brain had been boiling in madness making terrible decisions for the last century. Whic includes loving his wife. He got syphilis from a man. He gave syphilis to Janeway, It was living thinking feeling sentient syphilis and they killed it. Respecting all life my ass. It could have been the last of it's kind. Killing the last representative of a species is genocide. Someone should have volunteered as a host. Although if Tuvix had it, then so does Neelix. Actually looking at the "training" Tuvok had with Kes. Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep sexy Melds to teach her how to control her complete toolbox of abilities. Tuvok probably gave her Syphilis too, and if left untreated, might explain the unusual behaviors she expressed in her final episode. So Neelix gave it to kes, or kes gave it to Neelix, if they were playing hide the salami, which some schools of thought argue against. __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

January 1 2012, 01:52 AM	#219
AdmiralScreed Captain Location: Minnesota	Re: Does It Get Better??? The Chute: Not very good, but not too bad either. I liked the way Janeway handled the situation with the government as well as with the terrorists. Wang's acting was rotten as usual. 5/10

January 1 2012, 01:57 AM	#220
J. Allen Trekkie™ Location: A Quantum State	Re: Does It Get Better??? You seem to be having a better time at it than I, AdmiralScreed. I'm most of the way through Season 2, and I'm having trouble continuing. So far, it's just not clicking for me, and while some episodes are good, most of them are laborious, and I have trouble finishing them (though I am determined to see the entire series through). __________________ -------------------- "Laser effects, mirrored balls; John Williams must be rolling around in his grave!" - Homer Simpson