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Old December 20 2011, 10:46 AM   #2686
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Re: The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station

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Annnnd the trailer for those who missed it upthread.
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Old December 20 2011, 11:05 AM   #2687
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You know I missed it before but the film trailer has the New 52 Batman swoosh.
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Old December 20 2011, 12:22 PM   #2688
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@ CaptainCraigThe same average cinema-goer probably hadn't heard of Ras Al Ghul or Scarecrow from Batman Begins, either. Nor, for that matter, might they have known the villain from Iron Man or other superhero movies. They will, however, know Anne Hathaway and may be aware that she's playing Catwoman. I also think that fandom will be more worked up about the dodgy SFX than the average cinema-goer.

I think the fact that this is the long-awaited sequel to TDK and that Nolan's name is now better known than it was when that movie was released will doubtless compensate for any other 'shortcomings' (and I'm not persuaded that they exist) this trailer may have.

@ Allyn Gibson when Nolan and Goyer first got together to make what ultimately became Batman Begins, they talked about how cool it would be to make a trailer for a movie where you didn't realise that it was actually a Batman movie until the end. And thus it was with BB's first trailer. This is really just continuing that tradition.
Well stated, and I'll go you one further, the average film goer isn't even going to know Nolan
Thanks. But while I don't think Nolan has yet the name-recognition of a Spielberg, Tarantino or Cameron, his name is relatively well-known in light of the two previous Batman films and Inception. Certainly, the trailer makes it clear that he made the past two Batman movies and that will sell it to a lot of casual cinema-goers.

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@Captain Craig, Again I'll give you the example of a couple of my friends who don't follow news, or post on message boards didn't even bring up the FX in the trailer and are excited for the film. They also don't read comics either. Granted these are just two people but I'd figure I'd give you at least a small example. Maybe this isn't the case for others who don't follow production news at a regular basis.
Maybe it'll all be a wash in the end. Two of the three guys in my department, who love comic films, weren't won over. One in particular said, "I expected more for a first teaser follow-up to TDK." I didn't correct him that 6min of footage isn't categorically a teaser.

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@ CaptainCraigThe same average cinema-goer probably hadn't heard of Ras Al Ghul or Scarecrow from Batman Begins, either. Nor, for that matter, might they have known the villain from Iron Man or other superhero movies. They will, however, know Anne Hathaway and may be aware that she's playing Catwoman. I also think that fandom will be more worked up about the dodgy SFX than the average cinema-goer.

I think the fact that this is the long-awaited sequel to TDK and that Nolan's name is now better known than it was when that movie was released will doubtless compensate for any other 'shortcomings' (and I'm not persuaded that they exist) this trailer may have.
I'd say the public was more interested in a new take on Batman post-Clooney than they were about the villians involved with Begins.
If anything, it was the opposite. People were burned out on Batman after the awfulness of Batman and Robin. A lot of people didn't realise that BB was entirely separate to the last 4 movies. It was wrongly described as a prequel and a common response to the trailers was 'Not another one [Batman movie]!' And a lot of previewers were saying things along the lines of "'Liam Neeson as Ducard and Ken Wanatabe as Ras Al Ghul" hardly has the clout of 'Jack Nicholson as The Joker' or 'Jim Carrey as The Riddler'."

Iron Man is a different comparison I think. To most all he was all new and RDJ sells that most of all.
You forget that pre-Iron Man, RDJ wasn't a box-office draw. Even the much-lauded Kiss Kiss Bang Bang did little box office business. His casting as Stark was quite divisive at the time. Iron Man made him as much as he made it.

John Q Moviegoer may need something more to get him out is all I'm hypothosising. He/She might actually care who the villain is with a Batman and Gotham he's now famaliar. Which to Nolan's credit he tosses in Catwoman as Hathaway no less. I'm sure her push as co-star will come with more featured promos later.
We're all hypothesising. You might well be totally right and I totally wrong or vice-versa or somewhere in between.

[/QUOTE] I'm just playing Devil's Advocate, thinking out loud on the other side of the Nolan fandom lovefest is all. I'm going to the film. [/QUOTE]

Fair enough.

I've seen fandom scratch their heads before. OMG how did Cars 2 not do better? Pirates 4 should've been way more of a hit. Super 8 was a $200m film for sure, Spielberg is attached.
If TDKR drops and drops too much lets not say we didn't analyze the scenarios, thus making us not surprised.[/QUOTE]
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Old December 20 2011, 01:15 PM   #2689
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This trailer gives no indication of what the story is going to be
That's a slight exaggeration.

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A lot of people didn't realise that BB was entirely separate to the last 4 movies.
Some people didn't realize it even after seeing the film.
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Old December 20 2011, 03:36 PM   #2690
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Meh, trailer is okay. It didn't make me want to see the movie any more than I already did (which was not a lot). I don't know...it seems that no matter what I learn about this movie, I just can't get excited about it.
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Old December 20 2011, 04:12 PM   #2691
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Saw the worst quality bootleg of the prologue you could possibly imagine and I understood every word Bane said.

And Nolan is obviously a fan of Licence to Kill.
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Old December 20 2011, 06:15 PM   #2692
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This trailer gives no indication of what the story is going to be
That's a slight exaggeration.
Really? Then please tell me what the story is. From all I can gather from the trailer alone, the movie is about Bane destroying a football stadium and Batman fighting him because of it.

Seriously though, the trailer is a montage of cool stuff happening, but with no context on why or how things are happening. There is nothing wrong with that. If anything, a lack of story can be a good thing as it gets audiences curious how all the stuff fits together, thus generating interest in the film (like this movie needs any).

This seems to be a recurring trait of the trailers for Nolan's films. The comment I was making upthread wasn't a criticism, but a observation that when Nolan releases trailers like this, the internet falls over itself, but when other films by other, top notch directors do this, they are ripped apart, such as was the case with Tintin.
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Old December 20 2011, 06:16 PM   #2693
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I'm not sure if this breakdown of the trailer has been posted or not:

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/th...wn-fan-edition
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Old December 20 2011, 06:33 PM   #2694
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I'm not sure if this breakdown of the trailer has been posted or not:

http://www.totalfilm.com/features/th...wn-fan-edition
I rather enjoyed that. Seeing the trailer I'm thinking we're getting a taste of the film's overall flavour rather than actual spoiler-ish information. And that's fine because we're tantalized wondering just what the hell is going to happen. For me thats just enough to interest me to see the film.
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Old December 20 2011, 06:52 PM   #2695
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Wasn't sure about Bane at first, but he really comes across as a powerful and intimidating presence in the trailer.

He's definitely no Joker, but it looks like he'll still be pretty damn memorable in this.
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Old December 20 2011, 07:15 PM   #2696
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Script or transcript of the prologue:

http://www.wwtdd.com/enlargedimage/?...&postid=948022

Wow.
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Old December 20 2011, 09:00 PM   #2697
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Holy crap, that trailer looks awesome.
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Old December 20 2011, 11:16 PM   #2698
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Then please tell me what the story is. From all I can gather from the trailer alone, the movie is about Bane destroying a football stadium and Batman fighting him because of it.

Seriously though, the trailer is a montage of cool stuff happening, but with no context on why or how things are happening.
Some of that is in the dialogue; enough to be more than 'no indication'.
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Old December 21 2011, 12:11 AM   #2699
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Just saw this update on the Bane voice situation. Apparently the studio is really starting to get concerned about it now.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/226...a-slight-tweak
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Old December 21 2011, 12:16 AM   #2700
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Okay, yeah, I did not understand a word Bane said...well, no, I understood the word "ashes," but that's literally the only word I could make out.
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