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Old December 18 2011, 10:28 PM   #3946
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^ This was before the internet (well, before I had the internet anyway). I remember seeing the Cage/ Iron Man and a short time later the Gross/Cage story in a few magazines probably about late 1996 or early 1997. A few months later, then they were talking about Cage for Supes. Obviously, I don't know how much weight, if any, there was to the rumours about Cage for Stark or Gross for Kal-El. But yes, Gross certainly seemed a more likely Man of Steel than Cage ever did.

At the time, it was felt that Cage might make an interesting Tony Stark as he was winning great acclaim (and an Oscar) for playing an alcoholic in Leaving Las Vegas.
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Old December 18 2011, 10:47 PM   #3947
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Nic Cage as Superman, Chris Rock as Jimmy Olson, Tim Allen as Brainiac and Woody Harrelson as Jor-El???
Sadly yes they were in top consideration
I would have loved to see that.
What if Superman Lives was made.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=35416


Alot of this will probably be familiar to those that have read up on all those aborted "Superman" ideas in the 90's



Kevin Smith pitched Peters his story outline in August 1996, and was allowed to write the screenplay under three conditions. Peters wanted Superman to wear an all-black suit, feeling the more traditional suit was "too faggy". He also did not want Superman to fly,[8] arguing that Superman would "look like an overgrown Boy Scout."

Peters wanted Brainiac to give Lex Luthor a space dog, stating "Chewie's cuddly, man. You could make a toy out of him, so you've got to give me a dog." Peters' additional Star Wars similarities were due to the recent re-release of the original Star Wars trilogy, such as Peters' insistence that Brainiac's robot assistant L-Ron was to be voiced by Dwight Ewell, calling the character, "a gay R2-D2 with attitude." Peters was able to recycle his giant spider idea in Wild Wild West, a film he produced.

Tim Allen claimed he was in talks for Brainiac, a role heavily considered for Jim Carrey.
Apparently Kevin Smith confirmed Chris Rock as Jimmy Olsen in a Chicago Sun time article in 1997.


The movie would have been an awesome train wreck
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Old December 18 2011, 11:59 PM   #3948
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The movie would have been an awesome train wreck

I would have wept.
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Old December 19 2011, 05:20 AM   #3949
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Sadly yes they were in top consideration
I would have loved to see that.
What if Superman Lives was made.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=35416


Alot of this will probably be familiar to those that have read up on all those aborted "Superman" ideas in the 90's





Peters wanted Brainiac to give Lex Luthor a space dog, stating "Chewie's cuddly, man. You could make a toy out of him, so you've got to give me a dog." Peters' additional Star Wars similarities were due to the recent re-release of the original Star Wars trilogy, such as Peters' insistence that Brainiac's robot assistant L-Ron was to be voiced by Dwight Ewell, calling the character, "a gay R2-D2 with attitude." Peters was able to recycle his giant spider idea in Wild Wild West, a film he produced.
Tim Allen claimed he was in talks for Brainiac, a role heavily considered for Jim Carrey.
Apparently Kevin Smith confirmed Chris Rock as Jimmy Olsen in a Chicago Sun time article in 1997.


The movie would have been an awesome train wreck
Who was Peters? His ideas sound kinda scary.
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Old December 19 2011, 05:32 AM   #3950
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Who was Peters? His ideas sound kinda scary.
Producer on Tim Burton's Batman movie.
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Old December 19 2011, 07:24 AM   #3951
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Jon Peters also served as producer on "Superman Returns". One of the funniest moments in the behind the scenes making of documentary is they are filming the big hospital scene and film Peters absolutely praising Singer!!! Saying stuff like this is the way they should have gone about a film and Singer knows his stuff. I'm paraphrasing heavily but it is just funny given what we've all heard and read about the man from Kevin Smith and others.
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Old December 19 2011, 04:43 PM   #3952
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If you guys want to listen to this episode of the podcast: How did this get made? Jack O'Halloran (who played Non) was a guest and he unloaded some behind the scenes happenings on the set of Superman II.

http://www.earwolf.com/episode/superman-iii-live-bonus/
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Old December 19 2011, 04:49 PM   #3953
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Jon Peters also served as producer on "Superman Returns". One of the funniest moments in the behind the scenes making of documentary is they are filming the big hospital scene and film Peters absolutely praising Singer!!! Saying stuff like this is the way they should have gone about a film and Singer knows his stuff. I'm paraphrasing heavily but it is just funny given what we've all heard and read about the man from Kevin Smith and others.
In those same features, he references his past attempts to get a Superman film going and comments that he was totally wrong. You don't get that much in Hollywood.
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Old January 4 2012, 12:45 PM   #3954
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Unreliable and hopefully untrue rumour of the day:

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/con...per-lex-luthor
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Old January 4 2012, 12:59 PM   #3955
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"...can there really be a Superman without Lex Luthor?"

Yes.
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Old January 4 2012, 01:32 PM   #3956
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^ Yes, but not for long. Luthor is essential to Superman in the long term but doesnt need to appear every time. If anything Luthor needed a reboot much more than Superman did. The funny, wacky, silly super evil plan Luthor was just, as Dr. Nefario put it, lame.
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Old January 4 2012, 01:36 PM   #3957
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^ I'd imagine we'll get nods to Lex, such as Luthorcorp buildings or products in the background but won't see the character himself. Much as how the next Spider-man movie won't have the Green Goblin but will feature Oscorp. No doubt Supersequels and Spider-sequels will feature LL and GG respectively.

I like Bradley Cooper but I can't see him as Lex, even if they were going for a Lois and Clark take on the character. And the story about a cameo smacks of stunt-casting, flavour of the week type approach. Whatever else one says about this movie, Zack Snyder's casting has been spot-on and not in the least gimmicky.
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Old January 4 2012, 01:45 PM   #3958
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I like Bradley Cooper but I can't see him as Lex, even if they were going for a Lois and Clark take on the character. And the story about a cameo smacks of stunt-casting, flavour of the week type approach. Whatever else one says about this movie, Zack Snyder's casting has been spot-on and not in the least gimmicky.
He's just way too young to play Luthor. Even in Lois & Clark Luther was almost 50.
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Old January 4 2012, 01:51 PM   #3959
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^ I suppose if they were going for the Smallville approach, with Clark and Lex being near contemporaries, he'd be about the right age. But I just don't see him as a Lex type.
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Old January 4 2012, 04:01 PM   #3960
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John Shea was about forty-three when he played Luthor in Lois & Clark.
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