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Old December 16 2011, 04:53 AM   #3901
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I was hoping for a truly "new and different" storyline. Which would have used a different villian. Using the same villian from S:2 can only lead to comparisons.
This reminds me of something, but I can't put my finger on it.
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Old December 16 2011, 04:58 AM   #3902
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Why do we keep discussing old stuff over and over again? The plot of the film hasn't even been released yet. All we have is so far is speculation and rumours. Even the casting call thing that was posted a while back was from Comic Book Movies which I don't believe referenced an actual source. From what I've read Luthor was in the early drafts but doesn't seem to be in the film and it's possible we'll have LexCorp in the background.
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Old December 16 2011, 04:59 AM   #3903
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That suit is really...yuch!
This surprises me coming from you

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The suit looks great. So glad they ditched the Speedo.
See Above.

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Good list. Four and Five are trivial, but I agree with the rest.
All of them are largely trivial!

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One thing I'm wondering about... nearly everyone and his dog was complaining about Lex Luthor's ploy in Superman Return. Everybody went "What, AGAIN real estate?!"

And now this is essentially a remake of Superman I and II with better effects, but nobody bitches about that?
The problem some had with Superman Returns was that it directly lifted character beats, motivations, and plot points from Superman: The Movie.

All we know about Man of Steel are very general elements which can compare with the earlier films. Doesn't mean the movie will be "essentially a remake" any more than The Dark Knight was "essentially a remake" of Batman.

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From what I've read Luthor was in the early drafts but doesn't seem to be in the film and it's possible we'll have LexCorp in the background.
Oh great! It's clearly going to be a remake of the later seasons of Lois and Clark!!!!!!!
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Old December 16 2011, 05:33 AM   #3904
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Real Estate Luthor has always sucked. Along with Otis, the worst thing in the first Reeve film.
God forbid a superhero movie try to have a little bit of fun.
I like fun. Real Estate Luthor and Otis were not fun.
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Old December 16 2011, 05:53 AM   #3905
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No, they were fun. ONCE.
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Old December 16 2011, 05:55 AM   #3906
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^ This.
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Old December 16 2011, 05:57 AM   #3907
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One thing I'm wondering about... nearly everyone and his dog was complaining about Lex Luthor's ploy in Superman Return. Everybody went "What, AGAIN real estate?!"

And now this is essentially a remake of Superman I and II with better effects, but nobody bitches about that?
Is there a verified plot synopsis that backs that up?
Outside the origin angle and Zod(who hasn't been on the silver screen in 30 years), who isn't a fair gripe compared to Luthor, is there anything else to back up what your saying? Two shared points does not compute as same in my book.

It would be creative fail if the real estate scheme is used. Not to mention outdated for the character. Luthor has been portrayed no less than 3 times in major Superman media projects as a corporate mogul over the past 20 years.
I don't want the corporate mogul. I want the guy in Maggin's "Last Son of Krypton" novel...or the one in "All Star Superman"...or the one in the later season of JLU
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Old December 16 2011, 05:58 AM   #3908
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Once was one time too many. Didn't find them funny in 1978 and I still don't.
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Old December 16 2011, 06:01 AM   #3909
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The guy in All Star Superman was basically a combination of the corporate mogul and mad scientist. Morrison is the one who really cemented the corporate mogul during his JLA run. Luthor the globalist who has delusions of grandeur but continues to be thwarted by Superman and the Justice League.
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Old December 16 2011, 06:26 AM   #3910
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I was hoping for a truly "new and different" storyline. Which would have used a different villian. Using the same villian from S:2 can only lead to comparisons.
This reminds me of something, but I can't put my finger on it.
If it helps you, I was also disappointed to learn that Luthor would be the villain in S:R.

I will say that I could be surprised by how MOS turns out. Maybe this will be a breakout portrayal of Zod akin to Ledger's Joker.
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Old December 16 2011, 06:31 AM   #3911
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I was excited when I heard Kevin Spacey was going to be Luthor...then disappointed to discover he was DonnerVerse Luthor.
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Old December 16 2011, 12:51 PM   #3912
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The guy in All Star Superman was basically a combination of the corporate mogul and mad scientist. Morrison is the one who really cemented the corporate mogul during his JLA run. Luthor the globalist who has delusions of grandeur but continues to be thwarted by Superman and the Justice League.
If I recall correctly, there was no mogul aspect to Luthor in All Star. He was a mad scientist, pardoned to work on the space mission, by Gen. Lane. After using the mission to attempt to kill Superman he was reimprisoned. Basically, AS Luthor was "Last Son of Krypton" Luthor.

Now, it is true that LSK Luthor was a billionaire business owner, but never under his own name. Indeed, one of the fun things about LSK Luthor was that, because of his criminal status, he couldn't take credit for his many genius accomplishments, including ghost writing songs for Bob Dylan.

Bottom line for me, at least, is I don't want the Luthor as Gordon Gekko incarnation. Too 80s.
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Old December 16 2011, 12:59 PM   #3913
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I don't think we'll see Lex at all until the sequel...if there is one.
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Old December 16 2011, 03:46 PM   #3914
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I don't think we'll see Lex at all until the sequel...if there is one.
Why do you have doubts there will be a sequel?
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Old December 16 2011, 03:50 PM   #3915
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^ Well, we never got one to Superman Returns, did we?
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