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Old December 15 2011, 12:21 AM   #1
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How have the newer novels affected the reading order?

I knew the reading order leading up to Destiny and immediately following it until some of the last few novels came out. Here's the last of the reading order that I had. I'm not sure if the newer novels fit right onto the end of this list in publication order or not. I seems like someone said the newest Voyager book falls back in before a couple of the later Titan novels. Where does the Typhon Pact, Watching the Clock, Indistinguishable From Magic & The Struggle Within fall into place?

It's been a busy year since I started the DS9 relaunch and I'm quicjly approaching Destiny and would like to have a good idea how things fall after it.

Thanks for any help anyone may be ablew to provide.

Sincerely,
- Byron Followell



Resistance
Q & A
Before Dishonor
The Sword of Damocles
Greater Than The Sum
Gods of Night
Mere Mortals
Lost Souls
Losing The Peace
A Singular Destiny
Full Circle
Unworthy
Over a Torrent Sea
Synthesis
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Old December 15 2011, 12:57 AM   #2
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Re: How have the newer novels affected the reading order?

I think I'd read them in this order, which is mostly chronological:

Resistance
Q&A
Before Dishonor
Sword of Damocles
Greater than the Sum
(Destiny)
Losing The Peace
A Singular Destiny
Full Circle, Unworthy, Children of the Storm
Over A Torrent Sea, Synthesis
Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts, Zero Sum Game, Seize the Fire, Paths of Disharmony, The Struggle Within
DTI: Watching The Clock
Indistinguishable From Magic

I bet you'll get different opinions though. And actually, come to think of it, I don't quite remember where DTI falls. The events involving Titan and Enterprise crew - where on the chronology does that all fit?
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Old December 15 2011, 01:18 AM   #3
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Re: How have the newer novels affected the reading order?

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Thanks for any help anyone may be able to provide.
Buy them all, shelve them in publication order, and read them that way.

Some of the "Typhon Pact" novels overlap, contain some foreshadowing of related events, and are not necessarily chronological, but you can just read them in the order they were released.
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Old December 15 2011, 02:42 AM   #4
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You don't have to read the books in separate series in strict chronological order, since they're usually pretty independent of each other. As long as you read the installments of each distinct series in the order they were published, you're probably fine.

For what it's worth, though:

Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts of Empire begins just after Destiny and spans the next year, February 2381-Feb. '82. DTI: Watching the Clock covers roughly the same span of time (though it begins in March), not counting its flashbacks. The majority of WTC and the second half of RBoE pretty much fall after Synthesis. Then comes the rest of the Typhon Pact series: Zero Sum Game (Apr-Aug '82), Seize the Fire (Aug '82), Paths of Disharmony (roughly Sep-Oct '82), and The Struggle Within (Nov-Dec '82), then Indistinguishable from Magic (Jan-Apr '83).
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Old December 15 2011, 03:53 AM   #5
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Re: How have the newer novels affected the reading order?

Despite the publishing order, I think it makes sense to read Rough Beasts of Empire immediately before Zero Sum Game where it falls chronologically, so maybe move DTI to between Synthesis and Typhon Pact.

But it doesn't really matter.
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Old December 15 2011, 03:57 AM   #6
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^Yeah, no reason why they have to be read in chronological order. DTI:WTC has only peripheral mentions of the Typhon Pact.
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Old December 15 2011, 01:04 PM   #7
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Re: How have the newer novels affected the reading order?

Thanks guys. This was just what I was looking for. I really appreciate it. I can't believe I read through as much TrekLit as I have over the past year. I didn't figure I'd be anywhere near Destiny in only a year. I need to go back and compile a list so I'll be ready for the inevitable "what did you read last year" thread.

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Old December 15 2011, 07:37 PM   #8
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Re: How have the newer novels affected the reading order?

OK, unless someone sees something that they feel is blatantly wrong or out-of-synch, here's what I'm considering the proper novel reading order starting with the DS9 relaunch:

A Stitch In Time
Avatar, Book One
Avatar, Book Two
Section 31: Abyss
Gateways, Book Four: Demons of Air and Darkness
Gateways, Book Seven: What Lay Beyond: Horn and Ivory
Mission Gamma, Book One: Twilight
Mission Gamma, Book Two: This Gray Spirit
Mission Gamma, Book Three: Cathedral
Mission Gamma, Book Four: Lesser Evil
Rising Son
Unity
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Volume One: Cardassia & Andor
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Volume Two: Trill & Bajor
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Volume Three: Ferenginar & The Dominion
Glass Empires
Obsidian Alliances
Shards and Shadows
Warpath
Fearful Symmetry
The Soul Key
The Never Ending Sacrifice
Homecoming
The Farther shore
Old Wounds
Enemy of My Enemy
A Time to Be Born
A Time to Die
A Time to Sow
A Time to Harvest
A Time to Love
A Time to Hate
A Time to Kill
A Time to Heal
A Time for War, A Time for Peace
Death in Winter
Taking Wing
The Red King
Articles of the Federation
Orion's Hounds
Resistance
Q & A
Before Dishonor
Sword of Damocles
Greater Than The Sum
Gods of Night
Mere Mortals
Lost Souls
Losing The Peace
A Singular Destiny
Full Circle
Unworthy
Children of the Storm
Over a Torrent Sea
Synthesis
Watching the Clock
Rough Beasts of Empire
Zero Sum Game
Seize the Fire
Paths of Disharmony
The Struggle Within
Indistinguishable From Magic


I started with A Stitch in Time after Christmas last year and am about to wrap up Resistance. It's been an awesome TrekLit year but it's starting to wind down.
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Old December 15 2011, 11:10 PM   #9
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^ Does that mean you're planning on stopping, or just that the year is coming to an end? Because you are SO CLOSE to Destiny that if you stop now I will find a way to punch you through the internet.
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Old December 15 2011, 11:23 PM   #10
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^ Does that mean you're planning on stopping, or just that the year is coming to an end? Because you are SO CLOSE to Destiny that if you stop now I will find a way to punch you through the internet.
Oh no, not on your life. That's all I've heard since I started reading TrekLit again last year. Destiny this and Destiny that. I'm so close now I can almost taste it.

I'm not stopping until I'm caught up with the current novels. After that I'll probably take a Trek break for a few months and read some other books I've picked up before I come back and look into S.C.E., Enterprise, New Frontier, TOS, etc.

Looking at what I still have ahead of me and comparing it to what I've read, I figure I still have several months left before I'm caught up, maybe even mid-2012.

I'll make it soon though. I'm hoping to get a lot of reading in over the Christmas break and be ready to start Destiny by the end of January or so.

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Old December 16 2011, 12:10 AM   #11
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Re: How have the newer novels affected the reading order?

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OK, unless someone sees something that they feel is blatantly wrong or out-of-synch, here's what I'm considering the proper novel reading order starting with the DS9 relaunch:

A Stitch In Time
Avatar, Book One
Avatar, Book Two
Section 31: Abyss
Gateways, Book Four: Demons of Air and Darkness
Gateways, Book Seven: What Lay Beyond: Horn and Ivory
Mission Gamma, Book One: Twilight
Mission Gamma, Book Two: This Gray Spirit
Mission Gamma, Book Three: Cathedral
Mission Gamma, Book Four: Lesser Evil
Rising Son
Unity
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Volume One: Cardassia & Andor
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Volume Two: Trill & Bajor
Worlds of Deep Space Nine, Volume Three: Ferenginar & The Dominion
Glass Empires
Obsidian Alliances
Shards and Shadows
Warpath
Fearful Symmetry
The Soul Key
The Never Ending Sacrifice
Homecoming
The Farther shore
Old Wounds
Enemy of My Enemy
A Time to Be Born
A Time to Die
A Time to Sow
A Time to Harvest
A Time to Love
A Time to Hate
A Time to Kill
A Time to Heal
A Time for War, A Time for Peace
Death in Winter
Taking Wing
The Red King
Articles of the Federation
Orion's Hounds
Resistance
Q & A
Before Dishonor
Sword of Damocles
Greater Than The Sum
Gods of Night
Mere Mortals
Lost Souls
Losing The Peace
A Singular Destiny
Full Circle
Unworthy
Children of the Storm
Over a Torrent Sea
Synthesis
Watching the Clock
Rough Beasts of Empire
Zero Sum Game
Seize the Fire
Paths of Disharmony
The Struggle Within
Indistinguishable From Magic


I started with A Stitch in Time after Christmas last year and am about to wrap up Resistance. It's been an awesome TrekLit year but it's starting to wind down.
If you wanted you could also throw the SCE series in their at about the same time as Avatar. I don't know exactly how they line up, but the 6th novella, Cold Fusion, leads directly into the beginning of Abyss. It's a full on crossover between the two series, and it leads up to Empok Nor's arrival in the Bajor system.
There are several other tie-ins between it and the other series, including apperances by the Enterprise-E crew in the first story, and just Geordi in the next two. Then we have Cold Fusion as #6, the Gateways epilouge Here There Be Monsters as #10, we then jump back in time and are introduced to a 23rd Century SCE crew in Foundations ( #17-#19). Picard and Vale from TNG (there might be more, but they're the only two TNG characters who are in the character list on Memory Beta) pop up in The Art of the Deal (#45) and then in Malefictorum (#50) we have appearances by at least Kira, Ro, and Treir, Lost Time (#51) continues the DS9 crossover with appearances by Kira, Nog, and Vaughn. The next crossover is Security (#54) which delves into Enterprise-E Security Cheif and future Titan XO Christine Vale's past. The next story, a two-parter entitle Wounds (#55 and #36) features Bashir and the SCE team's medical officer, Elizabeth Lense (who was a classmates of Bashir's and appeared in the DS9 episode Explorers) on a mission that goes wrong. The series then closes out with a 6-part miniseries, What's Past, most of which feature appearances by characters from other series. The first novella, Progress (#61), isn't really a crossover, but it does feature Pulaski, and Sarjeka (who goes on the be a main character in the relaunched Corps of Engineers series). The next novella, The Future Begins (#62), focuses on Scotty's (a supporting character in the series who appears numerous times throughout it's entire run) time in the 24th century and features appearances by Nechayev, Ross, Geordi, and Robin Lefler and her mother. The 3rd What's Past novella, Distant Early Warning (#64) is a 23rd-Century SCE/Vanguard crossover, with appearances by Cooper, Farber, Fisher, Ganz, Greenfield, Zett, Reyes, and T'Prynn. The USS Lovell, the ship from this story and the other 4 23rd century SCE tales, is the same ship that made several appearances in the Vanguard series. The last What's Past novella, Many Splendors (#66) follows Sonya Gomez (from TNG episodes Q-Who and The Samaritan Snare, and one of the series lead characters) and Kieran Duffy (from the TNG episode Hollow Pursuits, and one of the other major characters in the series) time on the Enterprise-D, so it features pretty much the entire TNG cast and ties into numerous episodes. The last two novllas in the relaunched Corps of Engineers series, Remembrance of Things Past part 1 and 2, was a TNG crossover and features Data, Picard and Vale. I haven't read anything past SCE #16 so most of that was based of off the characters lists and descriptions on Memory Beta, and there might be others I don't know about.
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Old December 16 2011, 12:37 AM   #12
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Oh no, not on your life. That's all I've heard since I started reading TrekLit again last year. Destiny this and Destiny that. I'm so close now I can almost taste it.
Good.

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I just started reading "Mission Gamma Book one" after reading:
The LIves of Dax
A Stitch in Time
Avatar book one and two
Section 31 Abyss

I have no idea who the Jarta are and I'm starting to wonder if I did need to read the "Gateways" books in the relaunch series. I didn't because I didn't want to find myself reading the other books in the Gateways series too, and then end up being roped into a bunch of different story lines.

What do you think? Can I continue where I am (and the Jarta thing will work itself out) or do I need to go back to Gateways?
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Old October 14 2013, 02:10 PM   #14
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Are you referring to the Jarada? They're the insectoid race whose scan caused the holodeck malfunction in TNG: "The Big Goodbye," and they played a minor role in Gateways: Demons of Air and Darkness.

But you don't need to read the rest of Gateways to understand the DS9 installments. It and other similar novel crossovers were specifically designed so that reading the whole thing was optional. Such crossovers are more like loose unifying themes for a series of separate adventures, so that if you read just one installment you get a complete story, but if you read them all you see how that story fits into a larger context. Demons and "Horn and Ivory" are far more closely connected to the ongoing DS9 narrative than they are to the other Gateways books.
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Old October 14 2013, 07:59 PM   #15
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Your reading order looks great bfollowell! Its very close to mine,as I started reading books from this universe earlier in the year. After cherry picking books for a few months I went back and made an effort to read novels "in order" starting with DS9. Our lists look very similar! Except I think I'll take a nostalgic trip back with the Terok Nor trilogy while I'm reading DS9 stuff.

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