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Old December 9 2011, 02:44 AM   #211
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Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Ooooooooooooooh. Ok. That makes sense now. Well, if it was HAMMER War. Or H.A.M.M.E.R. War
They should call it HAMMER Time.
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Old December 9 2011, 03:23 AM   #212
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Yeah I've seen that used around some sites now already I am still waiting to find out what HAMMER stands for. That was supposed to be one of Victoria Hand's tasks
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Old December 9 2011, 03:28 AM   #213
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So I had a fairly large stack from yesterday and made time for one book before I flew out to Philly.

Read Defenders #1 and found it an enjoyable read. They set it up so Hulk makes an appearance and seemingly brings the group together THEN establishes why he can't stick around and gives them Betty as a surrogate role for the group.

I look forward to issue #2.
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Old December 9 2011, 03:38 AM   #214
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Yeah as mentioned in the Defenders thread Hulk isn't on the team because of his own book, he's just there as a plot device to get Betty on the team.
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Old December 9 2011, 03:45 AM   #215
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^^^
There's a Defenders only thread?
I didn't see it on the first two pages, must've overlooked it.
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Old December 9 2011, 04:03 AM   #216
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Yeah it was started by WhoFan. Probably been pushed back a few pages by now.
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Old December 9 2011, 07:42 AM   #217
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Here are next week's Marvel releases...

I'll be getting Avengers 1959 #4, Avengers Academy #23, Avengers: X-Sanction #1, Journey Into Mystery #632, New Avengers #19, S.H.E.I.L.D. #4 and hopefully Uncanny X-Men #2, shipping two weeks late from Diamond to my shop.
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Old December 9 2011, 07:48 AM   #218
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I'll be getting Avengers: X-Sanction #1 , Uncanny X-Men #2, New Avengers #19, Sheild #4, and Ultimate Comics X-Men #4.
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Old December 11 2011, 12:33 PM   #219
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All I've got to say about this is...wow...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/...-steve-wacker/
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Old December 11 2011, 12:35 PM   #220
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All I've got to say about this is...wow...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/...-steve-wacker/
heh, yeah i've been following this over the weekend. have to say i agree with Mark Waid.
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Old December 11 2011, 12:41 PM   #221
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Yeah as much as I'm a Joe fan, I've gotta agree with Waid as well. Wacker probably did overreact but he was protecting his talent and being a good editor. That was a low move by Joe...if he didn't intend anything by posting those figures then why he did even post them in the first place?
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Old December 11 2011, 12:42 PM   #222
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Holy shit, that's hilarious Much as I love Babylon 5, JMS does come off extremely conceited, and this is definitely a good example of that...
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Old December 11 2011, 12:48 PM   #223
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Joe did delete the original thread on his fan page but the discussion kind of continued somewhat with him and fans making jokes about it. I've got a question though...who's the blogger that Wacker referenced?
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Old December 12 2011, 03:03 AM   #224
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Did anyone point to sales on Superman and Wonder Woman during and after JMS' runs on those books?

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but wouldn't that be just as valid as the chart JMS posted? And, like that chart, totally open to discussion on the how's and why's.

I'm getting to the point where figures mean nothing to me, aside from how they factor into a decision to change the creative team or cancel the book. I like things that others don't, I like things that others do, why should it matter how many others like it?

And count me in the group that, overall, likes JMS, but think that this, whether it was intention or not, went south.
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Old December 12 2011, 03:22 AM   #225
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well, Dan Slott had this to say about the sales chart:

The chart is from an admittedly angry fan who's used inaccurate Diamond Estimates to chart the LOWEST SELLING issues of a THREE times a month book. He purposefully IGNORED what amounted to TWO-THIRDS of the "data" he was collecting. It's pretty much meaningless... to anything but this guy's bizarre personal vendetta against the book. Whatever.
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