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Old December 10 2011, 08:44 AM   #1
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The Improving the JJprise thread

Since the new film is coming to production thought it might be fun to rehash an old topic a bunch of us tossed around over at Trekweb when the Galactaprise was first unveiled

A few of us took it upon ourselves to make some improvements (or what we thought were improvements) to the percieved asthetic design flaws such as the skinny secondary hull, conecting dorsal set too far back (pushing the secondary too far forward under the saucer), Blue naccles, ect. Besides since nearly 5 years will have have passed since the first film it's time to think about a refit

So lets have some fun and see what you have and here your comments. Considering I am in the new E measuring 1200 meters camp thanks to King Daniel, I based my designs on that approx length

here are a few of mine.




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Old December 10 2011, 03:44 PM   #2
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very nice improvements there
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Old December 10 2011, 04:03 PM   #3
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Re: The Improving the JJprise thread

The art itself is stunning. But improvement.... all I see is a rework of the Connie, which some people will like, some will love and some hate.

Still, your skill at drawing is undisputed, this is amazing.
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Old December 10 2011, 04:14 PM   #4
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Re: The Improving the JJprise thread

What I see here is a fascinating blend of the TOS, TMP, and STXI Enterprises. It's a very worthwhile take on the ship. Thanks for sharing!
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Old December 10 2011, 07:47 PM   #5
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Re: The Improving the JJprise thread

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The art itself is stunning. But improvement.... all I see is a rework of the Connie, which some people will like, some will love and some hate.

Still, your skill at drawing is undisputed, this is amazing.
That my friend is the point of the thread. I am not asking to see odd new designs like Next Gen style Christmas ornament looking ships. Take the JJ Prise and make some tweeks to it and have some fun in the process. JJprise is a rework of the Connie
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Old December 10 2011, 08:39 PM   #6
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The only thing I'd is add some mass to the Engineering hull, like so:


The rest of the ship is fine as is.
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Old December 10 2011, 09:04 PM   #7
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Wow I think I have seen that before and yes iit makes all the world of difference.

Did you do that yourself or borrow the pic?

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The only thing I'd is add some mass to the Engineering hull, like so:


The rest of the ship is fine as is.
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Old December 10 2011, 09:34 PM   #8
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Wow I think I have seen that before and yes iit makes all the world of difference.

Did you do that yourself or borrow the pic?
I made a while ago for a similar thread that was in the STXI forum. I had to put the regular Abramsprise engineering hull there for comparison because people kept saying they didn't notice a difference
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Old December 10 2011, 10:08 PM   #9
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Re: The Improving the JJprise thread

Well it's all kinds of awesome!! Very talented and spot on to what I meant about what to me is the biggest JJprise design flaw, that dildo looking secondary hull

Do you have the ability to move the secondary hull back a few butthairs along the connecting dorsal so the secondary hull doesn't sit so far forward under the primary hull??

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Wow I think I have seen that before and yes iit makes all the world of difference.

Did you do that yourself or borrow the pic?
I made a while ago for a similar thread that was in the STXI forum. I had to put the regular Abramsprise engineering hull there for comparison because people kept saying they didn't notice a difference
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Old December 10 2011, 10:10 PM   #10
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I'd slim those engines. Also, I don't buy that 1,200 meter length. Hell, what would explain that huge of a size increase?

Also, lose the tail fins.
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Old December 10 2011, 10:49 PM   #11
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Re: The Improving the JJprise thread

The official size of the ship from the production team was originally supposed to be 1200 meters. All the space shot effects were shot to that scale, while the ground shots were shot at a smaller scale. They decided on 760something meters which does not jibe with the size of the bridge nor the size of the hanger deck. Both of which clearly show the 1200 meter size scale.

Besides Kirk should always have a bigger meaner ship than Captain Tea sipper

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Old December 10 2011, 11:32 PM   #12
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Re: The Improving the JJprise thread

Awesome version of the Enterprise there
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Old December 10 2011, 11:43 PM   #13
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Really nice drawings! I like your nacelle shapes in the bottom one, how the bussards are sort of blended in.
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Old December 11 2011, 01:27 AM   #14
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Here's improving the JJprise:
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Old December 11 2011, 01:46 AM   #15
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Seems to me they should have used the TOS Enterprise as their starting point, not the TMP one as they clearly did.

Assuming we're pretty much stuck with this ship hardware-wise, they could at least add the TOS-style pennant (seen on a couple of the JJshuttlecraft) to the nacelles and the two opposing "NCC-1701" to the saucer underside. Maybe even the triangles if you can work out a reason for them to be there (the saucer already has landing gear).
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