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Old December 6 2011, 06:15 AM   #76
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Re: NEW ONGOING STAR TREK SERIES FROM IDW!!!

I'm enjoying the comic quite a bit... I just wish they would stick with the stardate system from the 2009 movie! They only used it in the first issue! Bah!
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Old December 7 2011, 11:32 PM   #77
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I'm enjoying the comic quite a bit... I just wish they would stick with the stardate system from the 2009 movie! They only used it in the first issue! Bah!
With Orci being a consultant, I can't help but think there was a reason behind that and it has more to do with the next movie than the original episodes, IMO.
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Old December 8 2011, 01:32 AM   #78
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My guess is that they simply havent nailed down the timing of the new movie (or hadn't wen the comics were being written) and so went with TOS nonsense-numbers lest they overlap STXII.

I'm suddenly irrationally curious to know what the stardates in those cancelled nuTrek novels were.
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Old December 8 2011, 01:43 AM   #79
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I'm suddenly irrationally curious to know what the stardates in those cancelled nuTrek novels were.
I didn't use any. I preferred to avoid the issue.
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Old December 8 2011, 01:58 AM   #80
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Probably the smart solution.
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Old December 8 2011, 09:01 PM   #81
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I tend to gloss over stardates when reading novels or comics. Only later might I go back and check a detail, but mostly they are like wallpaper for me. Part of a scene but totally unimportant to the action.
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Old December 8 2011, 09:20 PM   #82
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As I often point out, when Gene Roddenberry and Herb Solow created stardates, it was with the intent of being deliberately vague about when Star Trek took place. So they were created specifically to convey a complete lack of meaningful chronological information. They're pretty much the lorem ipsum of chronology. Thus, it's best not to worry too much about them.
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Old December 8 2011, 10:15 PM   #83
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I have to admit that I too have been underwhelmed so far. But there is one story that I am hoping they will tackle if not this "year" (and I'm not speaking of a calendar year but of a 12 issue stretch) then next. It is one of the classic Trek stories that will be most fundamentally changed on multiple levels by the changes to the timeline, and that is... Amok Time!

Frankly how they handle that story will do a lot to tell me whether or not this is a series worth bothering with.
I wonder if they might try "City on the edge of forever"?
Would Harlan Ellison have any issue with it if they significantly changed it?

As a matter of fact, since DTI was established primarily due to Kirk and the Enterprises Time travel experiences, if this alternate timeline does not have similar occurances, how would their DTI be established?
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Old December 8 2011, 10:27 PM   #84
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It was probably established in the wake of the Kelvin's destruction, or after the events of Vulcan's destruction, to stop people going back and stopping Nero.
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Old December 9 2011, 01:48 AM   #85
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I wonder if they might try "City on the edge of forever"?
Would Harlan Ellison have any issue with it if they significantly changed it?
If IDW hired Peter David to write it, and if Peter David asked Harlan for permission (as he did with Imzadi), then I think Harlan would say, "Okie-day." Under any other circumstances, IDW would be asking for a smiting.

Don't misunderstand. IDW would be in the right, but they would be inviting a nuisance upon them.
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Old December 9 2011, 04:34 AM   #86
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Yeah, he was mad there were rumors the movie might involve the Guardian of Forever. I doubt he would let IDW adapt his whole story.
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Old December 9 2011, 10:59 AM   #87
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Re: NEW ONGOING STAR TREK SERIES FROM IDW!!!

I always assumed that the stardates used in "Star Trek" was the calender dates we use now but just adapted in a different way. I kind of thought it was clever. This is from the wikipedia entry on Stardates:

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According to Roberto Orci, stardates were revised again for the latest film so that the first four digits correspond to the year, while the remainder was intended to stand for the day of the year.[2][3][4] For example, stardate 2258.42 would be February 11, 2258.

Seems simple enough to me.

I've been enjoying the comics. The art especially is pretty good, and they're doing a good job of getting the likeness of the characters. That has always bothered me in the past.
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Old December 11 2011, 03:41 AM   #88
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I actually really like the idea of Abramsverse versions of TOS episodes. I'm just curious to see what they keep and what they change.
So far, I've been quite pleased with how they have been written. Even the artwork is quite colorful. I'm definitely looking forward to the new timeline's version of 'Operation: Annihilate!"

On the whole, this new comic series is quite impressive.
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Old December 14 2011, 08:24 PM   #89
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Looks like an original 2-part story called The Vendetta Conspiracy will follow the adaptation of Operation: Annihilate. The plot "centers on the Vulcans, some of whom are just trying to survive in the wake of their homeworld’s destruction. Others, of course, pursue what they consider the only logical response to the Romulan aggression – revenge." Sounds interesting, since that was something largely on my mind after they destroyed Vulcan in the film.
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Old December 14 2011, 09:39 PM   #90
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Yeah, I might have to check that out. Most of what I've heard about their episode adaptations hasn't interested me, but I would be curious to see what kind of original stories they do.
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