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Old December 3 2011, 05:13 AM   #196
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Re: Planet of the Titans U.S.S. Enterprise

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That's a nice design.

Although I don't understand the need for the dish on the primary hull next to the bridge.
I actually like the dish. It seems out-of-place yet doesn't.
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Old December 3 2011, 06:08 AM   #197
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Here was a physical model attempt of the McQuarrie/Adam concept
http://www.starshipmodeler.us/galler...endurance.html
Hardly. It's a kludge based around McQuarrie's paintings, but not an attempt to model what he painted.
It's a kit based on those cardboard study models.
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Old December 3 2011, 06:11 AM   #198
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Those phaser turrets look like the original cylons...
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Old December 3 2011, 06:16 AM   #199
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LordSarvain, your ship has a real Concorde vibe.
Let's hope it won't be as disastrous as that one was.
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Old December 3 2011, 07:01 AM   #200
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Nerdgasm. Don't make the surface too busy and no windows. The Ent has electronic viewing ports, no window washers. It also had some sleek lines painted on. Check out Vector's designs. The reason why it was never used? GREED.. There's something seriously wrong with the universe if it's never used and you're not paid handsomely for your work with McQuarry's designs. Congrads. Different in this case is always better, especially with the deflector dish. Very nice touch. Much better.. the best of both worlds. It's much better with the curved pylons but the the saucer seems a little too flat and/or the space station is too cramped. The saucer head needs alot of space above it for no other reason than because it does. Either that or the saucer has to be bulkier or thicker. There were two phase two ships. A elongated version and a shorter one with stockier nacelles. You picked the one I always loved luckily and the better one - the longer one. Though the other one could still be used as a smaller model version. There was also the round saucer ship seen in All Good Things as the medical vessel that I liked alot. Ironically I think that can have alot of windows for some aesthetic reason, and please don't tell me aesthetics have nothing to do with it. Nice job.
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Old December 3 2011, 07:54 AM   #201
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LordSarvain, your ship has a real Concorde vibe.
Let's hope it won't be as disastrous as that one was.
I wouldn't call the Concord "disastrous" in any way. Not cost effective, maybe. Loud, maybe. Cramped, maybe. But not "disastrous".
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Old December 3 2011, 09:24 PM   #202
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Yeah, that was an MD-11 piece--i.e. DC-10 part--that caused the crash that helped end Concorde.

I like the flat saucer myself. The photon torpedo bay needs to go there, but perhaps you could shave the front of it at an incline back from the front of the secondary hull a bit...

We have seen study model attempts, an uncompleted mesh of the McQuarrieprize with the flat Ken Adam saucer, but no one has done a mesh closely replicating what we saw on McQuarries two best paintings of the concept, the front and rear 3/4 shots.

The Ken Adam study model painting was of a less wide secondary hull wedge and a deeper saucer we see enter the asteroid station finally brought to screen in Archer's Mirror Darkly ENTERPRISE episode. That actually had a cowl to either side of the nacelle that wasn't added to the study model he made that found their way in TNG Best of Both worlds or Reunification.

But the two 3/4 shots had a rounder, smoother edge that I liked over Adams very flat edge--not that that looked bad either.
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/s...l=1#post540384

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Old December 4 2011, 04:51 PM   #203
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LordSarvain, your ship has a real Concorde vibe.
Let's hope it won't be as disastrous as that one was.
I wouldn't call the Concord "disastrous" in any way. Not cost effective, maybe. Loud, maybe. Cramped, maybe. But not "disastrous".
I agree with sojourner here. The Concorde was anything but disastrous. I think the Concorde was innovative, and I find it a damn shame that we don't see airliners headed in that direction. Granted that as typical with supersonic and hypersonic aircraft, that the Concorde wasn't very fuel efficient. And it is very likely we won't see another supersonic airliner until another source of fuel is developed to replace the current jet fuel.

True, the Concorde also made a large boom. I have no idea about how cramped they were, but I doubt they were any more cramped than most airliners.
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Old December 4 2011, 05:18 PM   #204
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^They were more cramped than most jetliners.
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Old December 4 2011, 10:02 PM   #205
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One of the downsides of basically being a flying pencil. Still, it was a very cool flying pencil
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Old December 4 2011, 11:01 PM   #206
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O/T Not exactly Phase II, but a nice design here
http://i26.servimg.com/u/f26/15/36/12/95/new_bo11.jpg
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Old December 4 2011, 11:36 PM   #207
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^ Those are pretty much the Phase II nacelles on the Enterprise.
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Old December 4 2011, 11:53 PM   #208
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^ Those are pretty much the Phase II nacelles on the Enterprise.
actually they are more TMP than Phase II
they just added an orange glow where there are just vanes on the version as built and filmed.
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Old December 5 2011, 05:12 AM   #209
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Did I hear about an airplane that could go coast to coast in like twenty minutes? That's a six hour flight!
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Old December 5 2011, 05:29 AM   #210
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