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Old November 29 2011, 09:53 PM   #361
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Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

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Elijah Wood believes 'The Hobbit' trailer will debut in front of 'Tintin.'

No surprise there, really. I expected either Tintin, given PJ's producer role, or Sherlock Holmes, since it's a Warner Bros. production. I'm looking forward to it.
Awesome. Yet another reason why I can't wait for Tintin. Between The Hobbit trailer, Tintin, Sherlock Holmes 2, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, December is going to be a sweet, sweet month.
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy was/is awesome, I didn't realise it and Tintin weren't out Stateside though and when is the latter out over there? - actually don't worry, it helps to read more than the first paragraph of news stories.

I take it the teaser will be out either with Tintin here even though it's nearing its cinema run or with Sherlock Holmes at the end of the month.
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Old November 30 2011, 01:27 AM   #362
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I have another book question, I have read the "silmarillion" do I need to read "The Book Of Lost Tales 1 & 2"?
Have you read Unfinished Tales? It fills in a lot of the gaps in The Silmarillion as well as providing backstory for the wizards, Isildur, Galadriel, the Rohirrim, and more.
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Old November 30 2011, 01:36 AM   #363
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I have another book question, I have read the "silmarillion" do I need to read "The Book Of Lost Tales 1 & 2"?
Because of the fact that The Silmarillion tended to have, for lack of a better phrase, macro rather than micro level pacing, the Lost Tales books can be good for expanded treatments of events such as the fall of Gondolin. I didn't find the first one all that interesting, though.
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Old November 30 2011, 02:35 PM   #364
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They're shooting it in 3D. Lame.
Unless you are one of the few people that has a negative physical reaction to 3D, I suggest you give it a chance with this one.

3D presentation is a skill that directors are still mastering. Most of the movies you've seen in 3D weren't even shot that way, they were converted. Those that we shot in 3D were shot by people still experimenting with the medium.

The work PJ is doing on the Hobbit looks great. The amount of hardware is astonishing (something like 50 Red Epic cameras that are named), and the amount of care they have going into the production makes other 3D movies seem kind of... lame. He's got his artists drawing blue/red 3D storyboards in pencil, for god's sake, and it's all built up from there.
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Old November 30 2011, 06:47 PM   #365
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I agree. This is one movie I'm actually looking forward to seeing in 3D.
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Old December 1 2011, 03:51 AM   #366
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Old December 1 2011, 04:14 AM   #367
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They're shooting it in 3D. Lame.
Unless you are one of the few people that has a negative physical reaction to 3D, I suggest you give it a chance with this one.

3D presentation is a skill that directors are still mastering. Most of the movies you've seen in 3D weren't even shot that way, they were converted. Those that we shot in 3D were shot by people still experimenting with the medium.

The work PJ is doing on the Hobbit looks great. The amount of hardware is astonishing (something like 50 Red Epic cameras that are named), and the amount of care they have going into the production makes other 3D movies seem kind of... lame. He's got his artists drawing blue/red 3D storyboards in pencil, for god's sake, and it's all built up from there.
As an ardent 3D critic, I will say this much: When used properly, 3D can be evocative.

What was it that made me reconsider my position on 3D? Martin Scorsese's Hugo. He did a fantastic job of allowing 3D to become part of the fabric of the film (snowflakes, train steam, crowded station) -- rather than an "effect" to wow the audience. I still think 3D is more gimmick than art. But given how purposefully and successfully Scorsese used the technology, I am willing to give The Hobbit 3D a chance.
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Old December 1 2011, 03:50 PM   #368
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As an ardent 3D critic, I will say this much: When used properly, 3D can be evocative.
Evocative of what?
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Old December 1 2011, 04:31 PM   #369
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^ I explained that in the rest of my post. For me, at least, the use of 3D in Hugo (falling snow, steam, even motes of dust) was evocative of a greater sense of immersion in the film -- rather than an effect that took me out of the film-going experience.
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Old December 1 2011, 04:40 PM   #370
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I don't think you know what evocative means.
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Old December 1 2011, 04:53 PM   #371
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I don't think you know what evocative means.
Really? We're down to arguing semantics instead of discussing films?

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e·voc·a·tive

   [ih-vok-uh-tiv, ih-voh-kuh-]
adjective tending to evoke
e·voke

   [ih-vohk]
verb (used with object), e·voked, e·vok·ing.
1. to call up or produce (memories, feelings, etc.)

2. to elicit or draw forth

3. to call up; cause to appear; summon

4. to produce or suggest through artistry and imagination a vivid impression of reality

Now that's out of the way, can we, you know, get back to discussing movies and such?
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Old December 1 2011, 05:03 PM   #372
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You should just man up and admit you should have used another word.
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Old December 1 2011, 05:06 PM   #373
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Dude, grow up.
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Old December 1 2011, 09:39 PM   #374
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Talking about proper use of language in a Tolkien-related thread? Madness!
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Old December 2 2011, 08:53 PM   #375
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As an ardent 3D critic, I will say this much: When used properly, 3D can be evocative.
Evocative of what?
The third dimension?
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