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Old November 30 2011, 07:25 PM   #2476
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^ Well, we don't know what else has happened, what else Bane has done, how the people are otherwise feeling. This could just be his opening gambit to flush Batman back into business. You may well be right but until we see it all on the big screen, we don't know how convincing it will all be.
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Old November 30 2011, 07:41 PM   #2477
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I haven't read this entire thread and don't know what all information has been released about the film, so correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't all this speculation that the film's story will hinge on Bane exposing Harvey come from a single still of Bane holding up Harvey Dent's picture before a crowd?

If so, that seems thin evidence upon which to decide that the main blow Bane deals to Gotham is destroying Dent's reputation. Especially since Hardy has spoken about Bane primarily in physical terms -that's he's wildly brutal. Seems more likely to me that he'll sow terror by randomly beating the hell out of people and anything having to do with Dent will be relatively minor - adding insult to injury essentially.

But maybe you all know something I don't so I could be wrong.
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Old November 30 2011, 08:50 PM   #2478
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^ Yep. This is precisely how i expect the city to react if indeed that is what we're going to see.
There would be a huge distrust of Batman and Gordon. Just think, if there is some memorial to Dent, then the people find out he's a fraud, they have spent all of this time honoring a criminal and condeming a hero. A little bit of uproar can escelate very quickly if you add in a character like Bane.
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Old November 30 2011, 09:12 PM   #2479
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Huge distrust of Batman? The whole point of the end of TDK was to "frame" Batman for Harvey's death. The public will trust him less if he's revealed to NOT be a killer?

Gordon is a better point. Again, however, the result would be less "riots in the streets" and more "call in the justice department."
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Old December 1 2011, 12:02 AM   #2480
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Lapis Exilis we've been speculating on all facets of the film's plot without knowing very many details. This is kind of one of the points of this thread. Speculation is part of the anticipation process
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Old December 1 2011, 01:41 AM   #2481
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Eh, eight years had past. In city terms that's a life time, the people of Gotham would be more absorbed with the new iPod than to worry about some government fiasco that had happened nearly a decade ago.
I know. that's why you never hear people talking about the assassinations of JFK, RFK or MLK, the election debacle in 2000, conspiracy theories over 9/11, Princess Diana or the Lockerbie bombing, the Iraq War, etc etc. No-one ever cares about things that happened in the past.
The assassination of a president or other major political figure is quite a bit different than a DA in a corrupt city turns out to have some skeletons in his closet. He wasn't a JFK or a MLK a leader in national or world-wide politics that paved the way for a huge change in the way people acted or thought.

He was the DA in one of the most corrupt cities in the world. Hardly a blip on anyone's radar outside of Gotham and after eight-years probably not even regarded much. On a local, city-wide scale the circumstances around the death of DA isn't news anymore after 8 years. That his death was covered up and lied about a bit, yeah, that might get a few people's interested piqued a bit but it wouldn't be too big of an incident.

Hell, look at New York and Charlie Rangel a man who is corrupt, was censured for it by Congress and the city of New York still didn't care and re-elected him anyway.

I doubt a little scandal about a DA is going to be blip on the pubiic's radar after eight years especially in this day and age.
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Old December 1 2011, 03:09 AM   #2482
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Eh, eight years had past. In city terms that's a life time, the people of Gotham would be more absorbed with the new iPod than to worry about some government fiasco that had happened nearly a decade ago.
I know. that's why you never hear people talking about the assassinations of JFK, RFK or MLK, the election debacle in 2000, conspiracy theories over 9/11, Princess Diana or the Lockerbie bombing, the Iraq War, etc etc. No-one ever cares about things that happened in the past.
The assassination of a president or other major political figure is quite a bit different than a DA in a corrupt city turns out to have some skeletons in his closet. He wasn't a JFK or a MLK a leader in national or world-wide politics that paved the way for a huge change in the way people acted or thought.

He was the DA in one of the most corrupt cities in the world. Hardly a blip on anyone's radar outside of Gotham and after eight-years probably not even regarded much. On a local, city-wide scale the circumstances around the death of DA isn't news anymore after 8 years. That his death was covered up and lied about a bit, yeah, that might get a few people's interested piqued a bit but it wouldn't be too big of an incident.

Hell, look at New York and Charlie Rangel a man who is corrupt, was censured for it by Congress and the city of New York still didn't care and re-elected him anyway.

I doubt a little scandal about a DA is going to be blip on the pubiic's radar after eight years especially in this day and age.
But might not the outrage/rioting/whatever, be over the Batman side of the equation, rather than about Harvey
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Old December 1 2011, 05:06 AM   #2483
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^That's kind of my thought.... people are less pissed about the idea that Harvey ended up being bad and more pissed about the fact that Batman, the guy who was actually succeeding in making Gotham a better and safer place, was set up to cover for the corrupted DA. And, as others have said, depending on the state that Gotham's in after those 8 years, it could end up being a big deal to the people that the city's hero was taken down for nothing.
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Old December 1 2011, 05:09 AM   #2484
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That's reasonable, I guess.. and it kind of leads into the film's title.

However, it merely seems adequate. If that's the story's hook, it doesn't strike me as all that interesting.
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Old December 1 2011, 10:50 PM   #2485
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Lapis Exilis we've been speculating on all facets of the film's plot without knowing very many details. This is kind of one of the points of this thread. Speculation is part of the anticipation process
I hear you - I was mostly just checking to find out if there were details known that I wasn't aware of. Since there aren't I'll stick to my speculation that whatever role Harvey Dent's memory plays in the new movie, it will be a relatively minor one, and certainly not the pivotal spark that sets Gotham aflame.
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Old December 2 2011, 05:22 AM   #2486
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The Dark Knight Rises prologue has been confirmed. Click the link to see if the prologue is playing at your local IMAX. I've already bought my ticket. I can't wait to see the prologue at the Chicago Navy Pier IMAX on December 16th.
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Old December 2 2011, 05:26 AM   #2487
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I've heard of the term "LieMax" where it's to describe people's IMAX theaters that aren't really IMAX.

How do I know if my location isn't a "liemax"?
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Old December 2 2011, 05:29 AM   #2488
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I've heard of the term "LieMax" where it's to describe people's IMAX theaters that aren't really IMAX.

How do I know if my location isn't a "liemax"?
This will help you. The Dark Knight Rises prologue is only playing with IMAX prints of Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol in film IMAX theaters. Not digital. To check if your local IMAX theater is film and not digital look for theaters with the code "1570", which means the theater has a 70mm, 15-perf projector.
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Old December 2 2011, 05:50 AM   #2489
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Just a reminder that the actual trailer is still attached with "Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows" while the prologue is in front of "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol". I was already excited for both films but this just makes it just a little bit more special.
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Old December 2 2011, 06:48 AM   #2490
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I'm seeing the midnight showing of Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows on the 15th and then Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol the next day. I'm pretty excited.
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