"James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! - Page 40

Admiral_Young · November 27 2011, 09:04 PM

I disagree that just because Q is in the movie that gadgets must follow. If that is the direction that the script follows then yes that will be the case but if they continue to follow the tone and direction of the previous two films then I would hazard a guess that gadgets will be minimal at best.

Captaindemotion · November 27 2011, 09:07 PM

^ Yeah, I see Q as providing weapons and cutting edge technology that is perhaps just marginally more advanced than the stuff we have access to - the stuff that Apple or whoever will be selling in a couple of years. No underwater cars, rocket packs or the like.

Starkers · November 28 2011, 01:40 PM

If Q doesn't give Bond a one man crocodile submarine in this film then I hate it already!!

The idea of a young geeky Q makes perfect sense (So much so that Spooks did it several years ago, replacing Malcom with Tariq)

I do hope they don't go the Deaver route of just giving him an iPhone that does everything!

Shame he's the Doctor cos Matt Smith would make a brilliant Q...

Yeah and at the risk of being a complete Pedant...Bond works for MI6(Or SIS) not MI5 (The Security Services)...

Captaindemotion · November 28 2011, 03:53 PM

Starkers wrote:

If Q doesn't give Bond a one man crocodile submarine in this film then I hate it already!!

The idea of a young geeky Q makes perfect sense (So much so that Spooks did it several years ago, replacing Malcom with Tariq)

I do hope they don't go the Deaver route of just giving him an iPhone that does everything!

Shame he's the Doctor cos Matt Smith would make a brilliant Q...

Yeah and at the risk of being a complete Pedant...Bond works for MI6(Or SIS) not MI5 (The Security Services)...

Pedant.

Starkers · November 28 2011, 04:46 PM

Sorry...

23skidoo · November 28 2011, 08:13 PM

Admiral_Young wrote:

I disagree that just because Q is in the movie that gadgets must follow. If that is the direction that the script follows then yes that will be the case but if they continue to follow the tone and direction of the previous two films then I would hazard a guess that gadgets will be minimal at best.

I don't understand why people talk about "minimal" gadgets. The Daniel Craig era has been loaded with gadgets - look at the anti-poison kit in the car, the tracking device, all the magic stuff Bond is able to do with his cellphone, the futuristic table-top at MI6 in Quantum of Solace.

The only difference is that many of the gadgets seen in the Craig films are things that likely exist in real life, or are plausible. (Sort of like how real life has caught up with Star Trek's futuristic communicators and tricorders.) So, OK, I don't expect us to see an invisible car anytime soon, but I've noted no lack of gadgets in the Craig era. All that's missing is a guy codenamed Q explaining how to use them - since odds are James Bond in 2006 was quite capable of figuring out how to use a smartphone.

But in Casino Royale certainly I saw at least 2 characters who could have easily been Q: the guy who injects Bond with the tracker in the Bahamas, and the guy who talks Bond through the antidote process.

Odds are if we see Q again he's going to be more like the "Quartermaster" his code name represents, i.e. helping Bond train with his weaponry, making sure the Walther is clean, etc.

Alex

Admiral_Young · November 28 2011, 10:11 PM

^ That's kind of the point I was trying to make

Captaindemotion · November 28 2011, 10:19 PM

Admiral_Young wrote:

^ That's kind of the point I was trying to make

Admiral_Young wrote:

I disagree that just because Q is in the movie that gadgets must follow. If that is the direction that the script follows then yes that will be the case but if they continue to follow the tone and direction of the previous two films then I would hazard a guess that gadgets will be minimal at best.

Captaindemotion wrote:

^ Yeah, I see Q as providing weapons and cutting edge technology that is perhaps just marginally more advanced than the stuff we have access to - the stuff that Apple or whoever will be selling in a couple of years. No underwater cars, rocket packs or the like.

Yeah, I would have thought we're all basically making the same point.

Rush Limborg · November 29 2011, 05:45 AM

I wouldn't be suprised if his "name" in the film isn't "Q", per se...but M instead refers to him as "Major Boothroyd"...or simply "Major". Even if it's just "Major"...we'll get the idea.

Admiral_Young · November 29 2011, 05:53 AM

^ Or even The Quartermaster

ATimson · November 29 2011, 05:55 AM

23skidoo wrote:

But in Casino Royale certainly I saw at least 2 characters who could have easily been Q: the guy who injects Bond with the tracker in the Bahamas, and the guy who talks Bond through the antidote process.

I'd thought the latter was Bill Tanner, but apparently he wasn't in CR, just QOS. Checking the script, that was apparently supposed to be a doctor MI6 had on call. Huh. The things you learn.

Starkers · November 29 2011, 10:51 AM

Well I guess it isn't beyond the realms of the possible for this younger Q to be/have been a major, but it would take a bit of a suspension of disbelief so I expect him to just be refered to as Q, Quartermaster, or maybe just Boothroyd.

KB24 · December 2 2011, 01:13 AM

I'm so behind in this thread now, The board hasn't been cooperating with me for days!

Anyhoo, I do indeed thing Craig has had gadgets, but they've been too contemporary product placement and are already out of date. So I'm hesitant about some young guy giving him some hip cool thing that is going to be passe by time the next movie roles around. That's why I would rather have a cranky old guy who can't deal with new crap or has something a bit toward the real of fantastic and quirky inventor.

I mentioned it before, but doesn't anyone think McCory could be the new Moneypenny? She seems motherly classy like a step up from Samantha Bond. Although she also seems like a worthy M replacement if Dench is really on the way out. Although I think it would be awesome for Colin Salmon to return if there is a need for a new M.

I forget what else I was going to say from when it wouldn't post for me, sigh. But I did find this. Outside of the wedding ring and the wine instead of a martini, and you might not now it wasn't from a Bond film

http://i42.tinypic.com/2v1sodf.jpg

Starkers · December 2 2011, 09:55 AM

Well Bond does drink wine (just make sure it's the right kind for the meal you're having

) and he could be undercover as a married man...

I think McCrory would be a greap Moneypenny, however heaven forbid the role is taken by a woman who's the same age as 007...

As for Q, it is possible to be young yet play the role of an old duffer (see Matt Smith) and it does make more sense these days that the Quartermaster would be of the younger generation.

I reckon Finney will be a new M if it's anybody (and always assuming Dench is planning to leave which doesn't seem certain)...

Captaindemotion · December 2 2011, 05:48 PM

^I think I read that Finney is one of M's superiors, though whether he's a politician or a securocrat, I don't know.

November 27 2011, 09:04 PM	#586
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! I disagree that just because Q is in the movie that gadgets must follow. If that is the direction that the script follows then yes that will be the case but if they continue to follow the tone and direction of the previous two films then I would hazard a guess that gadgets will be minimal at best. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

November 27 2011, 09:07 PM	#587
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! ^ Yeah, I see Q as providing weapons and cutting edge technology that is perhaps just marginally more advanced than the stuff we have access to - the stuff that Apple or whoever will be selling in a couple of years. No underwater cars, rocket packs or the like. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!

November 28 2011, 01:40 PM	#588
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! If Q doesn't give Bond a one man crocodile submarine in this film then I hate it already!! The idea of a young geeky Q makes perfect sense (So much so that Spooks did it several years ago, replacing Malcom with Tariq) I do hope they don't go the Deaver route of just giving him an iPhone that does everything! Shame he's the Doctor cos Matt Smith would make a brilliant Q... Yeah and at the risk of being a complete Pedant...Bond works for MI6(Or SIS) not MI5 (The Security Services)... __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 28 2011, 04:46 PM	#590
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Sorry... __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 28 2011, 10:11 PM	#592
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! ^ That's kind of the point I was trying to make __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

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November 29 2011, 05:45 AM	#594
Rush Limborg Vice Admiral Location: The EIB Network	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! I wouldn't be suprised if his "name" in the film isn't "Q", per se...but M instead refers to him as "Major Boothroyd"...or simply "Major". Even if it's just "Major"...we'll get the idea. __________________ "I have been wounded but not yet slain. I shall lie here and bleed awhile. Then I shall rise and fight again." "Forget it, Jake...it's Chinatown."

November 29 2011, 05:53 AM	#595
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! ^ Or even The Quartermaster __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

November 29 2011, 10:51 AM	#597
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Well I guess it isn't beyond the realms of the possible for this younger Q to be/have been a major, but it would take a bit of a suspension of disbelief so I expect him to just be refered to as Q, Quartermaster, or maybe just Boothroyd. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

December 2 2011, 01:13 AM	#598
KB24 Fleet Captain Location: NJ, USA	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! I'm so behind in this thread now, The board hasn't been cooperating with me for days! Anyhoo, I do indeed thing Craig has had gadgets, but they've been too contemporary product placement and are already out of date. So I'm hesitant about some young guy giving him some hip cool thing that is going to be passe by time the next movie roles around. That's why I would rather have a cranky old guy who can't deal with new crap or has something a bit toward the real of fantastic and quirky inventor. I mentioned it before, but doesn't anyone think McCory could be the new Moneypenny? She seems motherly classy like a step up from Samantha Bond. Although she also seems like a worthy M replacement if Dench is really on the way out. Although I think it would be awesome for Colin Salmon to return if there is a need for a new M. I forget what else I was going to say from when it wouldn't post for me, sigh. But I did find this. Outside of the wedding ring and the wine instead of a martini, and you might not now it wasn't from a Bond film http://i42.tinypic.com/2v1sodf.jpg __________________ FATE and FANGS: Tales from the Vampire Family Kindle Available Now! http://vampfam.blogspot.com I Think, Therefore I Review- Criticism, Conjecture, Rants http://ithinkthereforeireview.blogspot.com

December 2 2011, 09:55 AM	#599
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Well Bond does drink wine (just make sure it's the right kind for the meal you're having ) and he could be undercover as a married man... I think McCrory would be a greap Moneypenny, however heaven forbid the role is taken by a woman who's the same age as 007... As for Q, it is possible to be young yet play the role of an old duffer (see Matt Smith) and it does make more sense these days that the Quartermaster would be of the younger generation. I reckon Finney will be a new M if it's anybody (and always assuming Dench is planning to leave which doesn't seem certain)... __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

December 2 2011, 05:48 PM	#600
Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! ^I think I read that Finney is one of M's superiors, though whether he's a politician or a securocrat, I don't know. __________________ Hodor!!!!!!!