Marvel Now/ReEvolution Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers) - Page 11

Admiral_Young · November 23 2011, 02:40 PM

Looks like I was at least partially correct in my prediction regarding spoilers for 600. Can't wait to get this later this morning.

Captain Craig · November 23 2011, 03:35 PM

Dang it, why do our work filters here block ComicVine?
I'll have to read that later or find it on another site.

Admiral_Young · November 23 2011, 05:17 PM

New Jonathon Hickman interview...warning! There be spoilers in the article as he talks about issue 600 and beyond.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=35597

Praetor_Shinzon · November 24 2011, 12:02 AM

read Fantastic Four #600 and thought it was great. it pulls together various plot points from the whole Hickman run, and even some stuff from the Fraction Mighty Thor series.

Admiral_Young · November 24 2011, 12:12 AM

It really does. I'm just astonished how close my prediction was for the return of well...you know. I've never been this much of a Fantastic Four fan but Hickman's run just has ramped up my level of excitement and appreciation for them since he took over. I know he's maybe a hit and miss guy for some but to me he fundamentally understands the core of these characters...including Spider-Man. If Dan Slott leaves Amazing and Hickman isn't writing a gazillion books by then he should take over Spidey. Or at least be given a book because he writes a brilliant Peter Parker.

Captain Craig · November 24 2011, 12:26 AM

I almost got FF #600, flipped through it but decided my odds are good of getting it in a $1 bin at a show in January based on how many copies my LCS had.

Hound of UIster · November 24 2011, 12:53 AM

Read Fantastic Four 600.

Terrible cop out.

Dropped.

Admiral_Young · November 24 2011, 01:00 AM

It wasn't a cop out though if you've read previous interviews or read the run.

Hound of UIster · November 24 2011, 02:07 AM

Then they shouldn't have spend an entire freaking issue with his funeral and his close friends and family mourning him.

This was a incredibly shitty cop out.

I'm very disappointed in Hickman.

This and the recent issue of SHIELD makes me now think he is only a flash in the pan like Fraction.

Admiral_Young · November 24 2011, 03:18 AM

Disagree with you. They had a funeral and a wake because they thought and assumed Johnny died. As the second part of the issue showed Reed tried getting the body back. There was no "death" Marvel promoted it as such to generate sales. It was always meant to serve as just one part of a greater story. Sorry if you thought it was a cop out or didn't like it...but it wasn't.

Turtletrekker · November 24 2011, 03:54 AM

Seriously. Anyone who didn't expect this from FF 600 way back when they started to promote the "Three" storyline is either new to comics or hasn't been paying very close attention.

Hound of UIster · November 24 2011, 04:12 AM

^Marvel had a bigger policy recently of keeping people dead for longer periods as we say with the casualties of Disassembled.

It's pity that with Quesada no longer around to enforce discipline they revert to type.

Admiral_Young wrote:

Disagree with you. They had a funeral and a wake because they thought and assumed Johnny died. As the second part of the issue showed Reed tried getting the body back. There was no "death" Marvel promoted it as such to generate sales.

Then Hickman clearly shouldn't have had the funeral and the wake if he had never intended to kill him. That entire issue was a big neon sign stating that the Human Torch was dead. The fact that he didn't die is an enormous cop-out.

Turtletrekker · November 24 2011, 04:41 AM

The critics love Fantastic Four 600. On top of Comic Vine's 5-star review, Newsarama gives it 10 out of 10.

Admiral_Young · November 24 2011, 04:58 AM

^ That's 'cause it was awesome. Again House of UIster they assumed that Johnny had died and carried on as such. There was no way to find out if he was alive or not at the time. They reacted the way anyone would under the circumstances. The story wasn't intended be the death of Johnny Storm. If it was then Hickman would have killed him and we'd have got a body and everything. Johnny was "lost" or more accurately as I stated assumed dead. Not sure why you're having this much trouble comprehending this. If you didn't like it that's all well and good but Johnny was never meant to die and no one really thought he did die. Again there was no cop out but whatever. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Also you want Joe Q and his tyrannical decisions and policies back? No thanks.

Captain Craig · November 24 2011, 06:47 AM

As I flipped through the issue on the stand the only line that I still recall is:
"Pete, what are you wearing?"

November 23 2011, 02:40 PM	#151
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Looks like I was at least partially correct in my prediction regarding spoilers for 600. Can't wait to get this later this morning. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

November 23 2011, 03:35 PM	#152
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Dang it, why do our work filters here block ComicVine? I'll have to read that later or find it on another site. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

November 23 2011, 05:17 PM	#153
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) New Jonathon Hickman interview...warning! There be spoilers in the article as he talks about issue 600 and beyond. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=35597 __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

November 24 2011, 12:02 AM	#154
Praetor_Shinzon Rear Admiral Location: Virginia	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) read Fantastic Four #600 and thought it was great. it pulls together various plot points from the whole Hickman run, and even some stuff from the Fraction Mighty Thor series.

November 24 2011, 12:12 AM	#155
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) It really does. I'm just astonished how close my prediction was for the return of well...you know. I've never been this much of a Fantastic Four fan but Hickman's run just has ramped up my level of excitement and appreciation for them since he took over. I know he's maybe a hit and miss guy for some but to me he fundamentally understands the core of these characters...including Spider-Man. If Dan Slott leaves Amazing and Hickman isn't writing a gazillion books by then he should take over Spidey. Or at least be given a book because he writes a brilliant Peter Parker. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

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November 24 2011, 12:26 AM	#156
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) I almost got FF #600, flipped through it but decided my odds are good of getting it in a $1 bin at a show in January based on how many copies my LCS had. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

November 24 2011, 12:53 AM	#157
Hound of UIster Rear Admiral	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Read Fantastic Four 600. Terrible cop out. Dropped.

November 24 2011, 01:00 AM	#158
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) It wasn't a cop out though if you've read previous interviews or read the run. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

November 24 2011, 02:07 AM	#159
Hound of UIster Rear Admiral	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Then they shouldn't have spend an entire freaking issue with his funeral and his close friends and family mourning him. This was a incredibly shitty cop out. I'm very disappointed in Hickman. This and the recent issue of SHIELD makes me now think he is only a flash in the pan like Fraction.

November 24 2011, 03:18 AM	#160
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Disagree with you. They had a funeral and a wake because they thought and assumed Johnny died. As the second part of the issue showed Reed tried getting the body back. There was no "death" Marvel promoted it as such to generate sales. It was always meant to serve as just one part of a greater story. Sorry if you thought it was a cop out or didn't like it...but it wasn't. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

November 24 2011, 03:54 AM	#161
Turtletrekker Vice Admiral Location: Tacoma, Washington	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) Seriously. Anyone who didn't expect this from FF 600 way back when they started to promote the "Three" storyline is either new to comics or hasn't been paying very close attention. __________________ Coulson lives!

November 24 2011, 04:41 AM	#163
Turtletrekker Vice Admiral Location: Tacoma, Washington	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) The critics love Fantastic Four 600. On top of Comic Vine's 5-star review, Newsarama gives it 10 out of 10. __________________ Coulson lives!

November 24 2011, 04:58 AM	#164
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) ^ That's 'cause it was awesome. Again House of UIster they assumed that Johnny had died and carried on as such. There was no way to find out if he was alive or not at the time. They reacted the way anyone would under the circumstances. The story wasn't intended be the death of Johnny Storm. If it was then Hickman would have killed him and we'd have got a body and everything. Johnny was "lost" or more accurately as I stated assumed dead. Not sure why you're having this much trouble comprehending this. If you didn't like it that's all well and good but Johnny was never meant to die and no one really thought he did die. Again there was no cop out but whatever. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Also you want Joe Q and his tyrannical decisions and policies back? No thanks. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

November 24 2011, 06:47 AM	#165
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: Heroic Age/Avengers Ongoing Discussion Thread (Spoilers) As I flipped through the issue on the stand the only line that I still recall is: "Pete, what are you wearing?" __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1