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Old November 22 2011, 12:27 AM   #481
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Re: The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

I sympathized with Shane when Dale lit into him. How the fuck is he supposed to know the old goat has the hots for Andrea? Shane probably thinks someone's Dale's age wouldn't be interested in sex unless he's been sending Glenn to town for Viagra.

As for Lori, her angst is understandable. She personifies the predicament that everyone is in: are their lives even worth living now? Everyone else is pushing it aside by denial (we can cure the zombies) or just focusing on what's right in front of them (find Sophia, learn to shoot, have post-zombie-fight sex in the front seat of a Honda Civic...) But being pregnant means Lori has to confront what everyone else is strenuously trying to avoid.

I have a feeling Carol is going to be zombie-chow before they ever find Sophia. That will lead to some of the gang arguing that they should abandon the search since Sophia's mom is dead - a horrible attitude to take, but of course Shane will be in everyone's face about it. Shane and Daryl will fight about it, since Daryl more than everyone else will want to keep looking.

After they've actually given up, they will stumble across Sophia by accident and will have to pretend that they were still looking for her all along. This provides a new source of secret guilt, and finger-pointing blame based on how strongly or weakly each wanted to keep searching - and raises the issue of who will raise Sophia?

Carl will want to adopt her as a sister, but since it's a foregone conclusion that Lori will have pregnancy complications (maybe she didn't throw up all the pills?), she won't be able to be a good surrogate mother.

So that leaves Andrea, who will come to see Sophia as a surrogate Amy. If Andrea and Shane become a couple, that makes Shane - the guy who wanted to leave Sophia for dead - as daddy. That will infuriate Daryl, who of course can't tell Sophia the truth since it would traumatize her.
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Old November 22 2011, 01:16 AM   #482
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^Thank god your going to be wrong on most of that.

I thought it would have been awesome for Sophia to walk up on the car while Shane and Andrea were "getting busy" inside.
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Old November 22 2011, 01:26 AM   #483
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For what it's worth being this is from AICN and comes from a poster who claims to be a fired FX employee:
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Old November 22 2011, 01:28 AM   #484
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My guess....Sophia is in the barn.
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Old November 22 2011, 01:32 AM   #485
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Again, I'm not vouching for AICN TB'ers but the same poster also claims:
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Old November 22 2011, 03:38 AM   #486
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I loved the fact that this episode was filled with honesty and characters being forthright. Which is so NOT how most shows have things. TV show characters usually have the worst communication skills. Glenn can't handle the secrets and spills it. Dale gets two pieces of information and immediately confronts Lori and Herschel, neither of whom deny a thing, and in fact, they are open to discussing the issues! Lori apologizes to Glenn. Rick confronts Lori upon finding the pills, gets the truth from her, and then spills it about Shane.

I love it!
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Old November 22 2011, 03:40 AM   #487
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My guess....Sophia is in the barn.
I'm starting to suspect this too.
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Old November 22 2011, 04:29 AM   #488
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Sophia in the barn is too damn obvious. I hope they can come up with something a lot better than that!
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Old November 22 2011, 04:43 AM   #489
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If the spoiler is correct, it's not just a question of what is or isn't in the barn but how the situation is (allegedly) dealt with that would seem to have serious repercussions for our survivors.
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Old November 22 2011, 04:59 AM   #490
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I'm staying resolutely spoiler-free but now I'm starting to worry that the notion of curing the zombies really is on the menu after all?

Edit: something just occurred to me...there has been a lot of speculation that Jenner whispered to Rick that Lori was pregnant. Yet, when Lori spilled the beans, there was no confirmation from Rick that he already knew. So are we to assume that Jenner whispered something else? I would expect that whenever what he whispered is revealed, we get some immediate confirmation of the connection to Jenner, since that's the usual setup/resolution style of TV writing.

Edit part 2: did some digging and found this spoilery interview (spoilery because it confirms what Jenner didn't say).


I'll have to bow out now and just leave it there since I won't be able to follow any spoiler discussion that might go beyond what was broached in this interview. We shall see what we shall see...

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Old November 22 2011, 05:52 AM   #491
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I pretty much figure Jenner whispered to Rick that
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Old November 22 2011, 06:27 AM   #492
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Well heres hoping we'll get a break from some of the drama now that so many secrets are out, because even I'm starting to get a bit restless. Found myself FF'ing through several of the chatty scenes.

Dale - He came off as the real hero in this episode. Its really nice for once to see a tv character who's able to put two and two together.

Shane - I wonder how long until he either leaves, or is eaten. Because he's really about to make the jump into villainhood.

Andrea - Considerign how well shes taken to guns, I how much longer before she finds an automatic rifle, shaves her hair and goes all Ripley on us?

Sophia - There'd better be a HUGE payoff to this storyline after all this buildup.

I forget her name, but miss 'farmers daughter' thats been hanging out with Glenn is seriously getting on my damn nerves.
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Old November 22 2011, 06:44 AM   #493
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The pacing this season has been pretty horrible. I realize last season was only 6 episodes so a lot was condensed, but the problem is it gave your a false sense of expectation on what to look forward to for S2... Where as when S2 got here everything is all stretched out so that not even half as much has happened in the 7 episodes of S2 that have aired then what happened in all of S1.
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Old November 22 2011, 07:14 AM   #494
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Great episode this week.

Not much happened with the search for the girl, but we got some good character drama.

I liked that so many things happened and people finally started finding out what was going on around them. I was surprised to see Carl up so quickly, but glad he wanted to be useful and learned how to use a gun. Even the kids need to know something like that.

I hate how hot and cold Maggie is, Glenn deserves someone way better. I'm glad Dale got more to do and confronted Hershel, Lori and Shane. But confronting Shane like that at the end was a dumb move.

Glad Andrea has finally learned how to shoot. Hopefully this mean she will be more useful and stop whining all the time. Shane got lucky, and I was grossed out. I'm glad Lori and Rick decided not abort the baby. The Zombie Apocalypse might be going on, but they'll need to repopulated the world again someday.

I'm expecting a huge fall finale next week. Hopefully the walkers in the barn bust out and kill the useless people. The writers NEED to answer where the hell Sophia has been after all this time. That has become a joke now. I think everyone that has been watching has been fed up with that storyline. Time to move on.
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Old November 22 2011, 07:40 AM   #495
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I think I just figured it out! Sophie is the dead girl on The Killing. That's why they can't find her, she got transported to another show!
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