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Old November 17 2011, 09:25 PM   #271
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Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!)

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For all you mission content addicts.
There is a new MUST PLAY foundry mission available.
"City of the Polmar Ree"

I won`t go into details here, it plays better unspoiled.
Let's just say it's from the guy who also made The Ramok Nor mission...
I just started that one.
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Old November 17 2011, 10:46 PM   #272
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Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!)

Just read the Tribble release notes for today.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...d.php?t=241197

So why was Sulu demoted?

and we get so new events.
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Old November 17 2011, 11:46 PM   #273
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Not a fan of most of the events... they are designed to gate us into specific activities at certain times.
What's the point of doing that to crafting where absolutely no team play is involved and everybody should play on his/her own time table.

Well, as usual those changes don't affect me in the slightest, because I refuse to be told when to do what...
If an event is on that matches what I am doing, or I have nothing better to do anyway, fine, but I won't go out of my way to do them.

Not sure about the CE event... that will only end in frustration if the entity itself is not changed to be beatable with noobs on the map.

Where's Sulu?
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Old November 18 2011, 12:45 AM   #274
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Where's Sulu?
Actually the question is "Where's Winters?"

well the crafting compromise has gone live so any thoughts on it?
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Old November 18 2011, 01:19 AM   #275
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Sulu is still a Captain, so he didn't get demoted, just reassigned. From what he says about Winters, it sounds like Winters has taken the First Officer position on the Enterprise-F.
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Old November 18 2011, 01:11 PM   #276
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Just out of curiosity as someone whose been sort of watching how this game's been developing, but not been actually able to play it, would you suggest waiting till the game turns F2P before giving it a shot, or is there still a 30 day free trial deal available? Money's not an issue, so if I was to try it now and decided I liked it, I could go subscription/lifetime after the trial is up.
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Old November 18 2011, 02:46 PM   #277
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Personally, if I was starting out, I'd buy the game (it's now down to almost nothing if you look around, maybe $5?) and it'll come with the 30 day free play. F2P is Jan 17th, I believe, so maybe wait a few weeks and time it so you start in mid-December, and it rolls right in. Or, if you know you're not going to play much around xmas/early January, start now and let the account take a brief hiatus before it goes F2P and you can play again.

I don't think I'd start paying $15/month right before it goes free, not sure there's an advantage there. Also, if you got a free month for buying the game, and bought a month, you're already paying for part of the F2P period anyway, so I'd try and pick a date that uses the 30 free days as best I could.

Unless they change the reward structure in such a way as to limit the Silver (free) members more, or reward the Gold (paying and Lifetime) members more, absolutely no reason to give Cryptic $299. They've been kinda ignoring the LTS members in favor of trying to micro-transaction new players to death, so don't think you'd get your money's worth. I'd also wait to see how reaction to the revamp goes. STO has been on a negative slide for the past 8-9 months while they've focused on F2P, so not exactly a happy, stable fanbase right now. If the changes they've put in go over poorly, not sure how long before the game withers. Plus, at $299, that's about 20 months of paying $15/month. Even longer if you buy it in 3, 6, or 12 month chunks that give you a cheaper per-month rate. Right now, I'm not sure I'd gamble that this game will still be around, fun, and active 2 years from now. Buy it in smaller chunks, you can get off the ride when it stops being fun or it gets quiet (also can take months off). Buy it all in a LTS, you're gambling that the game will still be great and active in 2 years, and you'll still want to play regularly. Your call, I guess, but coming in 2 years after launch, not sure I'd buy in for the long haul. At least buying at launch, you've got a better chance of at least breaking even...
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Old November 18 2011, 03:42 PM   #278
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Thanks for the opinion. I'm guessing the difference in content available between Silver and Gold members isn't that dramatic then? I had a look at the features matrix on the official website, but I couldn't tell from a non-player perspective if those features were that much of a deal breaker.
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Old November 18 2011, 04:11 PM   #279
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Unless they change it more, doesn't appear to be a ton of difference. One of the things that the lifetime or monthly/yearly subscribers are complaining about. You're paying $15/month, and game-wise, not much difference. You mainly just get 400 cryptic points, but they appear to have also raised prices to devalue that a bit. You'd also qualify for Veteran rewards by subscribing, some of which are decent, but nothing earth-shattering.

Unless there's something in the matrix you can't live without, I'd play for free, and just buy cryptic points on occasion if there's something shiny you have to have...
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Old November 18 2011, 06:06 PM   #280
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Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!)

Thanks for confirming that for me. I'm in the process of downloading the game now. I'll do the 30 day trial and if it works out I'll continue with it when the F2P comes up, doubt I'll be able to play the game much over the late December period anyway, so the break won't be a problem.
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Old November 18 2011, 06:20 PM   #281
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My game keeps crashing on board Earth Spacedock. I'm getting about 30 seconds of gameplay before it crashes.

Anyone had the same problem?
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Old November 19 2011, 11:24 PM   #282
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When it goes F2P can I reinstall from the disk or do I have to download a dedicated F2P client?
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Old November 19 2011, 11:34 PM   #283
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you can reinstall from the disc, but then you will probably get a huge patch to do anyway.
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Old November 21 2011, 02:01 PM   #284
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Someone on the STO forums did work out how much the Gold Package was worth and came to the conclusion of $409.47 for the first 1000 days, which is roughly a $17 per month value.

So if you take a lifetime sub from start, it pays off in about 17 months.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...43&postcount=5
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Old November 21 2011, 05:38 PM   #285
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Admiral James Kirk wrote: View Post
When it goes F2P can I reinstall from the disk or do I have to download a dedicated F2P client?
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you can reinstall from the disc, but then you will probably get a huge patch to do anyway.
Um, do we really have to reinstall if you go silver? I though you just could't use your gold character without the conversion thing so at worst you need to make a new character.

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Someone on the STO forums did work out how much the Gold Package was worth and came to the conclusion of $409.47 for the first 1000 days, which is roughly a $17 per month value.

So if you take a lifetime sub from start, it pays off in about 17 months.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/sho...43&postcount=5
Thats interesting.
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