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Old November 17 2011, 11:17 PM   #136
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Pulling the plug on Black Panther too. Marvel's clearing house.
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Old November 18 2011, 01:52 AM   #137
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Wonder if Professor Howlett will send a sub over to Luke's Avengers team?
X-23 has nothing to do now that her title's canceled.
I just saw that on Twitter(while in a meeting) AND that Ghost Rider has been cancelled.

I was reading GR but they didn't push the book at all after it launced and minimally before that anyway. The book needed a more dynamic start but was coming together...if slowly imo.
The Great Marvel Implosion of '11.

Joe Q needs to return to Marvel editorial fast or there won't be anything left saving imo.
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Old November 18 2011, 02:13 AM   #138
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^ No he doesn't. Joe Q needs to stay where he is right now....more importantly away from Dan Slott and Spider-Man. To be fair Ghost Rider is always getting cancelled.
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Old November 18 2011, 02:24 AM   #139
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The last version of Ghost Rider lasted more than 30 issues plus a 5 issue mini finale. Cancelling it at #9 is a slap in the face to the fans.

As for Dan Slott, he needs to join the rest of America in the unemployment line.

Put Spencer on that book, he is wasting his current exclusive contract doing nothing. But anyone other than Slott would be good.
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Old November 18 2011, 02:30 AM   #140
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Nick Spencer is writing Ultimate Comics X-Men right now and doing a hell of a job. Slott has problems as a writer to be sure but he has at least convinced me that he can handle Spider-Man. Spider-Island was one of the best Spider-Man stories in recent time. Plus he seems to be undonig One More Day and started with weakening Stephen Strange's identity spell.
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Old November 18 2011, 02:58 AM   #141
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The last version of Ghost Rider lasted more than 30 issues plus a 5 issue mini finale. Cancelling it at #9 is a slap in the face to the fans.
Exactly.
I felt the same for the Vengance of Moon Knight title that went 10 issues but then had a 3 issue Shadowland mini. Shadowland should've just been issues 11-13 and a point to show people Moon Knight. Thus possibly extending that run.

I hope the current title can last into the 20's at least.

I still can't believe "The House of Ideas" can't put together a Blade book that lasts more than 12 issues.
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Old November 18 2011, 03:37 AM   #142
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Honestly, if I were forced to cut down to one Avengers book, hell if I had cut down to just one Marvel book altogether, it would be Christos Gage's Avengers Academy.
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Old November 18 2011, 03:41 AM   #143
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No.

Bendis's Avengers and New Avengers are complete shite that need to be cancelled or get a writer change.

Academy is actually well written.
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Old November 18 2011, 03:51 AM   #144
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The last version of Ghost Rider lasted more than 30 issues plus a 5 issue mini finale. Cancelling it at #9 is a slap in the face to the fans.
What fans? If the book was canceled that quickly, clearly not enough people were reading it.
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Old November 18 2011, 04:17 AM   #145
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The last version of Ghost Rider lasted more than 30 issues plus a 5 issue mini finale. Cancelling it at #9 is a slap in the face to the fans.
What fans? If the book was canceled that quickly, clearly not enough people were reading it.
You realize 35 issues is 3 years of support? That mini to wrap up was always intended to be the next arc in the ongoing. Marvel decided to honor the arc but tried the stop/start/renumber in an effort to boost sales.

The industry has been in such a state the past decade that a book lasting past 25 issues (2yrs) is considered a modest success.
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Old November 18 2011, 04:23 AM   #146
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The last version of Ghost Rider lasted more than 30 issues plus a 5 issue mini finale. Cancelling it at #9 is a slap in the face to the fans.
What fans? If the book was canceled that quickly, clearly not enough people were reading it.
The cancellation had nothing to do with numbers. Like the EiC said, it was done simply because Marvel had undergone a staff reduction and were left shorthanded and had to cancel books because they didn't have the editors to oversee them.
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Old November 18 2011, 06:09 AM   #147
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Punisher Max and Black Panther are also ending their runs...by the way feel free to discuss all things Marvel in this thread as it was originally intended to involve the greater banner of Heroic Age. Now Shattered Heroes.
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Old November 18 2011, 11:02 AM   #148
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IMO the current Ghost Rider title isn't very good. the writing has been all over the place and you have wacky things like Mephisto giving Johnny a giant spaceship which looks somewhat like a motorcycle.
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Old November 18 2011, 03:10 PM   #149
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IMO, you probably haven't read the previous Jason Aaron Ghost Rider where Marvel had stuff like kung fu nuns, underground satanist breeding programs or the anti-christ working for Wall Street. The current one is just following in its footsteps with the over the top absurdity.
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Old November 23 2011, 09:22 AM   #150
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A non-spoiler, five out of five star review from Comic Vine for Fantastic Four #600.
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