Red Dwarf series 9 (or is it 10?) in 2012 confirmed by Craig Charles

[Servo]

Pingfah wrote:

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Oh, yeah that is a good point. I'd actually forgotten it was all a hallucination, probably because they already did that idea 20 years ago

On the plus side though, at least it airs before the end of the world.

Sweet. I get to see Batman, The Avengers, and new Red Dwarf. I'll be able to die happy

I am interested to see what they do about Holly, though. Judging by his statements at the time Back to Earth aired, it's doubtful Lovett will sign on, so unless they can get Hattie Hayridge back, they're in a bit of a pickle. Unless they're just going to say the Skutters still haven't dried him out.

[Pingfah]

^ I could not work out if he was joking or not, it seemed very bitter.

Pauln6 wrote:

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They should do a Roseanne thing with Claire and Chloe in the same episode. Actually, I quite like Chole's Kochanski. I think she gets a bit of stick because the show became a bit less anarchic and a bit more mainstream when she came on board but it was still hugely enjoyable.

Grogan had more of a minx thing going on, I found Annett's Kochanski to be too serious.

[Pauln6]

In fairness, Chloe is from an alternate universe. It might be fun for 'our' universe's Kochanski to make an appearance and for Lister to pipe up that he hadn't realised before how little alike they look.

[Servo]

Pingfah wrote:

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^ I could not work out if he was joking or not, it seemed very bitter.

Yeah, I got the impression that he was genuinely annoyed about how the situation had been handled. Seems like it may have been a case of six of one, half a dozen of the other though. Naylor probably should have been more forthcoming about whether Lovett would get a part, and Lovett probably should have been a bit more patient and less demanding when asking. Either way, unless something has changed over the last 18 months, I can't see him appearing in the new series.

[Ar-Pharazon]

Pauln6 wrote:

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In fairness, Chloe is from an alternate universe. It might be fun for 'our' universe's Kochanski to make an appearance and for Lister to pipe up that he hadn't realised before how little alike they look.

I had wondered somewhere (this thread or another) if the nanobots had reincarnated the "pile of albino mouse droppings" that was the original Kochanski.

[Holdfast]

Red Dwarf lost its mojo when Rob Grant left and never recovered, despite a brief flicker of life in a few scenes of Series VIII. I couldn't bear the underlying concept of Back to Earth, so have still only seen partial scenes of it. Can't say I feel I've missed anything interesting.

I'll probably tune in to a new proper series though. Provided it's set in deep space on the mining ship Red Dwarf, empty apart from the old core cast playing Lister, Rimmer, Kryten and Cat. I don't mind if Kochanski is there or not, though. Her inclusion would be OK. Holly can be played by either Lovett or Hayridge, I don't care.

Most importantly, Doug Naylor just cannot write Red Dwarf on his own, or in a large majority role. That's probably my biggest reservation about the new series. He just lacks the more acerbic bite of Rob Grant's sharper sense of humour. Naylor seems good with concepts and his humour comes across as different/softer which is fine some of the time but Dwarf also needs edge.

PS. Pingfah: Claire Grogan's understandably lost that youthful minxyness these days. More naughty suburban mum. Still wouldn't complain, though, she still looks pretty great...

[Admiral_Young]

Here are the filming dates for series X. They're recruiting members for a live audience.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/11/...udio-audience/

[Cutter John]

And another article that covers pretty much the same thing.

http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2011/...r-red-dwarf-x/

[Holdfast]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Here are the filming dates for series X. They're recruiting members for a live audience.

I'm glad they're going to have an audience; the laughter really does add something to the seasons they used one in. I know it's not a particularly popular opinion to like a laugh track, but a good one makes the world of positive difference to how a show comes across.

[Ar-Pharazon]

Yeah, BtE and the parts of S8 without any laugh track or audience seemed really forced of the parts of the actors.

Added to the fact those eras of the show weren't as good as the earlier ones, I prefer the laughter of a live audience. Now we hope it's funny enough to make the people laugh.

[Ar-Pharazon]

A (very) short clip posted of the Cat & Kryten in makeup-

[23skidoo]

Holdfast wrote:

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I'm glad they're going to have an audience; the laughter really does add something to the seasons they used one in. I know it's not a particularly popular opinion to like a laugh track, but a good one makes the world of positive difference to how a show comes across.

People only object to a laugh track if there was never an audience there to begin with. "Laugh tracks" that are actual live recordings of an audience viewing the performance are fine, although as the DVD commentary on RD Series 7 mentions, the cast didn't care for the fact the SFX-heavy season was filmed with no audience and later shown to an audience whose laughter was recorded. I think Craig Charles mentions that without an audience it was hard to get joke timing right.

But with an actual filmed-in-front-of-an-audience scenario, even though there's a trade-off with reduced ability to do SFX or really extravagant stories (though I thought RD did quite well regardless), there's still an obvious relationship developed between the actors and the audience. Watch, for example, the smeg ups where we see the cast joking with the audience, playing off them. You don't get the same atmosphere when it's just a camera crew present.

I don't know the background of how Season 9/10 came to be commissioned, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the actors made "live audience" a condition of their involvement.

Alex

[Bob The Skutter]

^Actually Doug Naylor said he wanted the audience, but what he was unsure about is this day and age all the spoilers and pics that would leak on to the internet. In the end they decided it was worth it.

[Guy Gardener]

And the audience has to decide if the strip search and full body cavity excavation is worth it.

[Bob The Skutter]

^Yep, that's the one. But it's Red Dwarf, I'm sure people will consider it to be worth it.