Did Supergirl get punched out of her skin?

[Admiral_Young]

Wiki entry on Linda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_(Matrix)

[Hound of UIster]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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It has been my impression that the Peter David run on "Supergirl" was actually critically acclaimed by fans.

No just critically acclaimed by the same 20k readers who will buy his stuff regardless of the actual content. See X-Factor.

[Broccoli]

Steve Mollmann wrote:

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For a story that has mass appeal, The Death of Superman has tons of goofy, unexplained things from the 1990s continuity: Matrix Supergirl, the War Worlders, Jimmy Olsen dressed as a Turtle, Bloodwynd, Redhead Australian Luthor. I can't imagine what Theoretical Casual Buyer thought of it.

I was that buyer! The Death of Superman got me into comics in the first place when I was a kid. I had no idea what was going on, but I loved every minute of it. Of course, later on, I started to pick stuff up like why Lex Luther was generally liked by everybody and had red hair and a beard.

[Admiral_Young]

^ Same. I had almost every single issue of the run and a lot from the Bryne run. I remember being mesmerized by the Superman: Exile story line.

[Agent Richard07]

Steve Mollmann wrote:

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For a story that has mass appeal, The Death of Superman has tons of goofy, unexplained things from the 1990s continuity: Matrix Supergirl, the War Worlders, Jimmy Olsen dressed as a Turtle, Bloodwynd, Redhead Australian Luthor. I can't imagine what Theoretical Casual Buyer thought of it.

I understood that stuff happened when I wasn't reading these titles and I quickly adapted. Lex Luthor II must have been explained, because I got his backstory somehow.

[Broccoli]

^ Yeah, same here.

[Allyn Gibson]

Steve Mollmann wrote:

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What no amount of Wikipedia reading can justify, though, is why Jon Bognadove received gainful employment at DC Comics.

That one's easy.

Louise Simonson and Jon Bogdanove had been working together for years at Marvel, on things from New Mutants to (mainly) Power Pack. Based on the strength of their work together at Marvel, DC put them on a high-profile book -- the new Superman: Man of Steel -- when Mike Carlin lured the team away from the House of Ideas. Both Simonson and Bogdanove were considered major "gets" for DC at a time when DC really needed to make a splash.

Bogdanove's work on Man of Steel was different than anything else going on in the Superman books at the time, and it didn't mesh well with Dan Jurgens' work on Superman and Jerry Ordway and Tom Grummett's work on Adventures. I remember a friend of mine complaining about Bogdanove's work at the time for precisely that reason. I, personally, loved it because it really did have a different feel. Bogdanove was and is a seriously hardcore Superman fan -- his son is named Kal-El -- and I thought his artwork took after Wayne Boring, rather than Curt Swan or Murphy Anderson, which is what gave it such a distinctive look for the time.

[Nerys Myk]

Yeah, I liked Bogdanove's Superman, too. As you say it had some of Borings look and touch of the Shuster Studio. I beleive Boring was a member of that studio, so maybe thats the same thing.

[The Stig]

This thread is much like adults speaking in a Charlie Brown cartoon. Y'all seem to understand what's going on, but all I hear is a muted trombone.

[Silvercrest]

Mission accomplished.



Me, I thought Weezie and Bog were all right on Power Pack, but way out of place on Superman. Both the writing and the art.

Of course, I wasn't too keen on Jurgens' writing, either.

[Steve Mollmann]

Nerys Myk wrote:

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Yeah, I liked Bogdanove's Superman, too. As you say it had some of Borings look and touch of the Shuster Studio. I beleive Boring was a member of that studio, so maybe thats the same thing.

Supergirl has nice granny panties, I guess. And is that Louis Lane next to her?

[Broccoli]

I had a love/hate feeling on Bogdanove's artwork. It had a cool style going for it, but characters at certain angles made it look awkward. That said, and an interesting aside, I think it was Bogdanove's design that Mattel used for their first Superman action figure in the DC Superheroes line (which later evolved into DC Universe Classics). To me, it is the best Superman figure I've ever encountered.

Steve Mollmann wrote:

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Supergirl has nice granny panties, I guess. And is that Louis Lane next to her?

Supergirl is wearing a skirt that comes down in a point in the center. Lois wearing a tie, well, in the early '90s, there was a brief period where that was fashionable for women. It didn't really last long.

[Sindatur]

Broccoli wrote:

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Lois wearing a tie, well, in the early '90s, there was a brief period where that was fashionable for women. It didn't really last long.

But, she's got no breasts, and her head looks like a dude wearing a wig.

[Nerys Myk]

Love the big hair!!!!!

[Robert Maxwell]

Sindatur wrote:

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But, she's got no breasts, and her head looks like a dude wearing a wig.

Not to mention the shoulders. But I think shoulder pads were also a big thing in the early '90s. The bottom line is, she looks mannish.