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Old November 9 2011, 10:45 AM   #151
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We are all guessing at this point (yes, even you, Dennis). But if they take anything at all from RDM's version (no point in a direct connection, as it really has all been done, except for prequels, and they are already taking care of that), is that they may borrow some tone.

My guess is that the tone of this will have the fun and adventure of TOS, minus the cheese, but gravitas and seriousness of RDM's, without the unremitting grimmness.
I don't understand how it can't have the unremitting grimmness. Its the end of the world, the end of civilization. Even as a child I loved the oBSG but it occurred to me at 5, how lightly they treated what was such a dire situation.

If anything RDM's version wasn't grim enough.
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Old November 9 2011, 10:52 AM   #152
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Unremitting grimness does not sell well at the cinema. It drove would-be fans away in droves on the small screen.
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Old November 9 2011, 11:37 AM   #153
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Unremitting grimness does not sell well at the cinema. It drove would-be fans away in droves on the small screen.
Yes, I was thinking this too. I love RDM nuBSG, but I can't see this tone being what they'll be going for in the theater.

I'd also be surprised if they have any passages where Colonial soldiers rape a Cylon.

Rubbing shit in the face of the audience isn't going to make a blockbuster.
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Old November 9 2011, 01:22 PM   #154
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

As long as they don't try to pretend it's all peachy keen...

IE, 12 worlds have been destroyed and billions are dead as society lies in ruins -- but we survivors are going to stop for a fun jaunt at a casino planet!

Give the characters and audience something hopeful to hang on to and you can at least go ankle-deep into the gritty side of the pool rather than trying to gloss over such a critical element.

Give them a real reason to survive, to hope, to go on.

Star Wars had a rebellion, Terminator (originally) had stopping Judgment day, blah blah... example example, lol.
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Old November 9 2011, 01:24 PM   #155
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Old November 9 2011, 05:27 PM   #156
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I expect this movie to be a two hour CGI fest of man vs machine. We'll have epic spaceship battles, badass robots slaughtering humans graphically, and huge-ass splosions representing the attack on the Colonies. Unlike nuBSG this will be taken in stride with the characters stoically accepting what has happened and fighting on without ever acknowldging how terrible an event this is that they've just been through. However, unlike original BSG they aren't just going to shove this aside so they can hit the Space Casino or visit a Wild West settlement where a Cylon has established himself as a badass gunslinger.
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Old November 9 2011, 05:40 PM   #157
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^^^ I'd watch that.
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Old November 9 2011, 05:45 PM   #158
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We are all guessing at this point (yes, even you, Dennis).
Yes, but I've never been wrong about anything.
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Old November 9 2011, 06:08 PM   #159
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As long as they don't try to pretend it's all peachy keen...

IE, 12 worlds have been destroyed and billions are dead as society lies in ruins -- but we survivors are going to stop for a fun jaunt at a casino planet!
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Why does everybody insist on forgetting that that casino planet hid alien who were eating humans alive??

It was far from a "fun jaunt", and should be enough to satisfy the needs of fans who must have every damn thing be grim, serious and constantly overly emotional and depressing.

These thins are NOT deep, thought provoking entertainment. I don't care what anybody says.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:23 PM   #160
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As long as they don't try to pretend it's all peachy keen...

IE, 12 worlds have been destroyed and billions are dead as society lies in ruins -- but we survivors are going to stop for a fun jaunt at a casino planet!
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Why does everybody insist on forgetting that that casino planet hid alien who were eating humans alive??
Because before that, Starbuck seriously considered resigning his commission (or going AWOL) to manage a band of terrible multi-faced singers on a tour. Where would they tour? Everywhere else was blown up! And these people have been at war for a thousand years, how is it Starbuck thinks he can just quit the military just like that once some (stupid) entrepreneurial opportunity rears its two-mouthed head?

Sure, back on the ships, Adama and the Quorum of Morons actually took things halfway seriously, but that's not going to save the reputation of your show when your popular leads are jacking around like Lucy and Ethel.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:28 PM   #161
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^^^ A concept that, IIRC, Boomer quickly admonished Starbuck over for being so ridiculous in that very same scene.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:35 PM   #162
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As long as they don't try to pretend it's all peachy keen...

IE, 12 worlds have been destroyed and billions are dead as society lies in ruins -- but we survivors are going to stop for a fun jaunt at a casino planet!
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Why does everybody insist on forgetting that that casino planet hid alien who were eating humans alive??
Because it makes that part of the story more stupid, not less. Why do you insist on not noticing that?

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^^^ A concept that, IIRC, Boomer quickly admonished Starbuck over for being so ridiculous in that very same scene.
That's called "hanging a lantern" on a piece of stupidity that even the writers couldn't live with. It means nothing.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:45 PM   #163
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I love it when Dennis gets all tradecraft.
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Old November 9 2011, 07:56 PM   #164
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Screw the fans. Neither set would make a dent in the box office by staying away, which is not going to happen unless the general buzz around the movie is all kinds of negative. Disappointing the critics who are familiar with RDM's show might be a concern, though, and that can be addressed by having depth and high standards of production and performance. They'll probably also want to make the movie family-friendly in direct proportion to its budget. All things considered, maybe BSG should once again draw from the well of Star Wars (1977).

Having said that, I think I'd like to see the antithesis of NuBSG; a movie to which NuBSG is the evil twin and wherein people faced with tough choices actually make a decent effort to act with wisdom and justice.
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Old November 9 2011, 08:14 PM   #165
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Having said that, I think I'd like to see the antithesis of NuBSG; a movie to which NuBSG is the evil twin and wherein people faced with tough choices actually make a decent effort to act with wisdom and justice.
Oh, they tried. They just rarely got there.

You know, like most of us.
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