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Old November 8 2011, 10:14 PM   #196
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Re: Farscape First time watch thread....

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I still think it's a shame we didn't get a full fifth season, though.
Amen to that. I like Peacekeeeper Wars all in all and it's a good end to the series, but there's stuff in there that could have filled episodes or whole arcs, and that's not poking at the loose threads.

Anyway, weren't they even planning a sixth season?
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Old November 8 2011, 10:23 PM   #197
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I thought it was all going to end with the fifth year (or, at least, they were going to wrap up everything going on up to that point). This is the first I've heard about a potential sixth season.
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Old November 8 2011, 10:28 PM   #198
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I thought it was all going to end with the fifth year (or, at least, they were going to wrap up everything going on up to that point). This is the first I've heard about a potential sixth season.
Yea, SciFi Channel renewed it for S4 and S5 after S3, then tried to explain away that 2 Season renewal as S4 being 2 seasons. And, they did offer a half season to close out the Arc, which was turned down, but, even 10 episodes, instead of the 4 for Peacekeeper Wars would've been better than just the Mini-Series. But, definitely the Mini-Series was Millions of times better than stopping at the Cliff Hanger at the end of S4
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Old November 8 2011, 10:31 PM   #199
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Re: Farscape First time watch thread....

I think I read somewhere (here, most likely) that they had some arc ideas for a sixth season, that they were planning ahead more by the end of the fourth season than they had used to be in earlier years. But since it's my memory quoting a half-remembered other poster from god knows how many years ago it's not reliable.
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Old November 10 2011, 12:09 AM   #200
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I need to get back to my farscape watching sometime....
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Old November 12 2011, 05:37 PM   #201
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I have finished Farscape...season 4.

We're So Screwed 1-3: The bold raid on the Scarran station to rescue Aeryn went off quickly, or I figured it would be at least till pt.2 they actually got her rescued. I guess the trade off is that Scorpius got captured. Exchanging one captured love (Aeryn) for another Earth (wormhole tech that Scoryp may/may not have). I did enjoy the interaction on the station between the Scarrans, Moya's crew, and the slave/worker race (I forget what species they are).
The revelation that the Scarran matriarchal flower is native to Earth raises the question, who/what brought the flower from Earth and how come no one else remembers how to get there?
Scorpy's betrayal was expected, if for no other reason than he always has had his own agenda and if betrayal gets the balance back in his favor then so be it. I liked the escape with the whole bomb drop down the shaft. Nice.

Bad Timing: So it's a race against time as the Scarrans are heading to the wormhole that leads to Earth. For enslavement and their precious flower. The episode as a whole I found quite good(as someone else said upthread). It's the ending that's a real kick in the jewels. Was that a Bioloid(sp) that shot the weapon that crystalized John and Aeryn? As a season cliffhanger that's harsh. When it becomes the finale it's a real bitch.

I went back and watched the bonus features on disc 5 and there in commentaries the crew reveals that had shot the episodes out of order(which is unusual imo). I know shows/movies are shot out of sequence but per episode, in order was my understanding. The last episode they shot was A Constellation of Doubt, or aka Bobby-vision as I called the episode.


Now it's time for the The Peacekeeper Wars mini or aka Season 5. Which is essentially 4 more episodes.
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Old November 12 2011, 05:43 PM   #202
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Re: Farscape First time watch thread....

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Now it's time for the The Peacekeeper Wars mini or aka Season 5. Which is essentially 4 more episodes.
Eh, it's really more like a 3-hour movie.

I'm just gonna get this out of the way because you will ask about it (everybody does!): Yes, Pilot's voice sounds different. It's still Lani Tupu doing it, but the sound was mixed by a different guy. It'll throw you off a little bit.
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Old November 12 2011, 07:17 PM   #203
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Re: Farscape First time watch thread....

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Quite. It's essentially a concluding telefilm.

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Yes, Pilot's voice sounds different. It's still Lani Tupu doing it, but the sound was mixed by a different guy. It'll throw you off a little bit.
The problem is that there's no doubt Lani Tupu's doing it. That Lani performed as Pilot and Crais was a surprise to me when I first read it in the credits, but in PKW, well...
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Old November 12 2011, 07:23 PM   #204
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Re: Farscape First time watch thread....

It was nice that Stark was around for the last couple of episodes I just wish Zahnn had also made an appearance. Maybe in PKW??
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Old November 12 2011, 07:32 PM   #205
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It was nice that Stark was around for the last couple of episodes I just wish Zahnn had also made an appearance.
In fairness Zhaan did have a couple of appearances in the fourth season, however brief. But being dead and all simulated fantasy versions and alternate universe interviewees is as good as one gets.
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Old November 12 2011, 07:33 PM   #206
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Indeed. When characters die on Farscape, they tend to stay dead.
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Old November 12 2011, 08:01 PM   #207
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Bad Timing: So it's a race against time as the Scarrans are heading to the wormhole that leads to Earth. For enslavement and their precious flower. The episode as a whole I found quite good(as someone else said upthread). It's the ending that's a real kick in the jewels. Was that a Bioloid(sp) that shot the weapon that crystalized John and Aeryn? As a season cliffhanger that's harsh. When it becomes the finale it's a real bitch.



Now it's time for the The Peacekeeper Wars mini or aka Season 5. Which is essentially 4 more episodes.
To get the Proper Effect, you need to wait for a couple years before you can watch Peacekeeper Wars. You can, of course continuing rewatching S1 - S4 during the hiatus, just to rachet up your annoyance more from the Cliff Hanger Series Finale

Zhaan's problem was that Virginia Hey couldn't handle the makeup any longer
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Old November 14 2011, 05:00 PM   #208
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I have finished Farscape this weekend by watching The Peackeeper Wars. This did indeed do a great job of wrapping things up and giving some closure to the series.

Right off the bat as this starts they do something new visually with Rygel by showing him swimming along the ocean bottom. The f/x are not quite perfect but they still pulled it off nicely. So did the boat get turned over? When they are crystallized the flakes are in the boat. Guess you just go with it but Rygel collecting the pieces in his belly was a bit of laugh. Then to find out the baby pieces stayed in him and now he's pregnant were interesting. Noranti tasting each piece to determine which is John vs Aeryn, all in all a good opening few minutes.

Maybe cause I was prepped for it I didn't find Pilot's voice as jarring. What got me were Chiana's eyes. Then Sikozu's hair and tattoo's were a bit of change, not to mention her now Scorpy-esque attire. Also, Sikozu as the the Scarran spy seemed off. If she's supposodly so smart how could she believe a promise that the Scarran's would free her people? Seemed like a possible character flaw there. Another thing that's just brushed aside is the return of Grunschlk and his nurse who were dead...but aren't now.

The return of Jool and Jothee were both a nice addition to the PKW. Was the same actor playing Jothee? I also thought that his look was a bit different. Something with the forehead felt different from the last time we saw him in S2 was it?

I don't recall the Eidolons having that face opening affect when Jool and company had that time spanning event in S3. The revelation that, if I read the insinuation right, the Eidolons essentially travelled to an ancient Earth and took primitive humans fills in the gap of "why do Sabaceans look so Human?". Also, since they were a race of peace it explains why they didn't stay on Earth. The Eidolons now feel like the Guardians of the Green Lantern universe to me. The Eidolons also said they did some genetic tinkering so it makes me wonder if any other of the more human looking species we met could possibly be other Eidolon tinkerings with human DNA?

Couple of nice space fight scenes and I liked the one of Braca making a run at the command deck. So Grayza is also preggers now which made for a very morning sickness type episode between her, Rygel and Aeryn all being pregnant at some point.

Ok, we need a Farscape movie now cause no way do I buy that D'Argo pulls a Spock ala Wrath of Kahn and stays dead. I mean heck John and Aeryn have both died once or twice and come back. I'm not as torn up about Jool but D'Argo? I also would like to have seen the Hynerian homeworld. Nice touch of naming John & Aeryn's child D'Argo.

The culmination of finally seeing the wormhole weapon was nice. Putting the show into our perspective it's interesting that one of the main thrusts of the show was the search for a perfect weapon of mass destruction. Given that the show straddles pre/post 9/11 and PKW is a few years later.

I'm really glad I bought this set last Black Friday. I know it's not for everybody cause of the "puppets" but the story and character growth and interaction is as well done as any sci-fi show I've seen since the mid-80s. It's so much better in totality than either Voyager or Enterprise and I tend to like Enterprise but get the criticisms there.

I understand that BOOM! Comics just completed a 24 issue run of a Farscape revival. Anyone read those? I've noticed D'Argo on the covers but didn't think anything about it till now. Obviously they resurrect him in the comic. I'm thinking with Grunschlk shown alive in the closing moments of chaos that he could be tied to D'Argo's return. Also it seems Sikozu's fate is left up in the air. Wonder if that's addressed in the comic?

I've made a fairly good run at my sci-fi bought during the Holidays last year. Watched nuBSG, TruCalling, Transformers Headmasters(s4) and Farscape. Not to mention a host of animated shows. The only one I didn't get to was Stargate. I have all 10 seasons of that to go and only seen a sprinkling of that over the years.

Farscape I'm glad to be acquainted and would recommend it to anyone looking for a "new" show.
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Old November 14 2011, 05:06 PM   #209
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Some of the bits spilled over the side of the boat. You can see the sequence around the 5:00 mark in this clip:

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Old November 14 2011, 05:10 PM   #210
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Sikozu was not originally meant to be the spy. It was going to be Noranti, but the actress was having issues with the makeup, so they reduced her role in PKW. If you look, there are actually two different actresses playing Noranti throughout the movie.

As for the comics, no, I don't think they resurrect D'Argo. I think the D'Argo comics actually take place before he dies in PKW. There are other comics that are a continuation of the series, and they're actually very well done. The art is great, and the characterization is perfect. Unfortunately, the comic series was just recently discontinued.
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