"James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! - Page 31

Broccoli · November 2 2011, 05:25 PM

Well, in Berry's defense, she really wasn't an A-lister when she was cast as in DAD. She was "known", but maybe on the same level as Teri Hatcher or Michelle Yeoh when they were cast in TND. It was during the production of DAD when Berry hit super-stardom with Monster's Ball and her subsequent Oscar win.

Samurai8472 · November 2 2011, 05:43 PM

Berry was on the cusp of being an A list star.

Prior to Die Another day there was "Swordfish" then X-men 1 and 2.

I'd say people knew by then.

Angelina Jolie would just overshadow everything if she were in a Bond movie.

Even more so than Berry IMO.

Broccoli · November 2 2011, 05:50 PM

Samurai8472 wrote:

Berry was on the cusp of being an A list star.

Prior to Die Another day there was "Swordfish" then X-men 1 and 2.

I'd say people knew by then.

X2 came out after DAD.

Again, I'm not saying people didn't know her. I am saying that she was on-par with the other Bond girls of the era in being known, but not being house hold names quite yet. During the production of DAD, she became that household name (which, I'm sure the producers loved, considering they probably got her into a "pre-A-list" contract, but were also then able to market the hell out of her since the movie came out "post-A-list"). I would argue that Hatcher and Yeoh were on the cusp of being A-Listers as well. However, it didn't quite work out for them.

Starkers · November 3 2011, 10:40 AM

I'd say even before the Oscar Berry was a bigger name than either Hatcher or Yeoh. Hatcher was a TV actress, yeah it was a popular show but being a big name on TV doesn't make you a big name in films. As for Yeoh TND was before Crouching Tiger and whilst I'd seen her (I think) before Bond I suspect she was something of a mystery to most people in the West.

Compare that to Berry who'd been in Swordfish and X-Men prior to Bond, and in fact had been around for years (I always forget she was in the Flitstones). She had added notariety from the whole Swordfish/topless angle, and, though I'm not sure, had she already been FHM's sexiest woman by now?

I wouldn't disagree that she became truly A list until the Oscar, but I still think she was a much bigger name than either Yeoh or Hatcher, or any Bond girl before or since, though it pains me to say it.

Starkers · November 3 2011, 01:01 PM

Well it is definitley Skyfall, and the girl is Bérénice Marlohe...film to be set in Shanghai, Istanbul and, er, Scotland!

Agent Richard07 · November 3 2011, 02:06 PM

Supreme Dittodrone wrote:

Stalkers wrote:

As long as they don't trot Angelina Jolie out I'll be ok...

I realize it's something of a recurring gag to dump on Angelina Jolie, for some strange reason...but what's wrong with her being in a Bond film?

She's overhyped and over exposed. I wouldn't want to see her in a Bond movie. I was also irritated at the suggestion that she play Catwoman.

Samurai8472 · November 3 2011, 02:22 PM

The basic plot

http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/bond2...live_blog.php3

"Bond's loyalty to M is tested as her past comes back to haunt her. As MI6 comes under attack, 007 must track down and destroy the threat, no matter how personal the cost."

Whofan · November 3 2011, 02:31 PM

Sounds just a bit like The World Is Not Enough-hopefully turns out better than that did.

Starkers · November 3 2011, 02:56 PM

Yeah I got a vague whiff of TWINE as well. Hopfully it is just a vague similarity.

JarodRussell · November 3 2011, 03:02 PM

I just hope it somehow ties into the Quantum story line.

JacksonArcher · November 3 2011, 03:05 PM

Roger Deakins as cinematographer? Holy hell.

Samurai8472 · November 3 2011, 03:12 PM

Mendes certainly brings in the talent

Lonemagpie · November 3 2011, 03:22 PM

JarodRussell wrote:

I just hope it somehow ties into the Quantum story line.

Nope, they said it has no connection to CR and QOS besides the MI6 regulars being in it.

They've also reassured us that action will be kept to the CR/QOS sort of level.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1117...d_skyfall.html

Starkers · November 3 2011, 03:43 PM

They seem to be suggesting it'll feel more like CR than QoS.

I'm guessing Skyfall refers to the sky metaphorically falling in on M's head!

I wonder if this'll be Dench's last film? (last Bond film that is!)

Whofan · November 3 2011, 03:53 PM

Yeah, I think it's been stated that this is probably her last Bond.

I think that makers her the second longest running M after Lee (Although one can say she played two different Ms)

November 2 2011, 05:25 PM	#451
Broccoli Vice Admiral Location: Broccoli	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Well, in Berry's defense, she really wasn't an A-lister when she was cast as in DAD. She was "known", but maybe on the same level as Teri Hatcher or Michelle Yeoh when they were cast in TND. It was during the production of DAD when Berry hit super-stardom with Monster's Ball and her subsequent Oscar win. __________________ "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

November 2 2011, 05:43 PM	#452
Samurai8472 Vice Admiral	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Berry was on the cusp of being an A list star. Prior to Die Another day there was "Swordfish" then X-men 1 and 2. I'd say people knew by then. Angelina Jolie would just overshadow everything if she were in a Bond movie. Even more so than Berry IMO. __________________ "Inception" is a layer cake.

November 3 2011, 10:40 AM	#454
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! I'd say even before the Oscar Berry was a bigger name than either Hatcher or Yeoh. Hatcher was a TV actress, yeah it was a popular show but being a big name on TV doesn't make you a big name in films. As for Yeoh TND was before Crouching Tiger and whilst I'd seen her (I think) before Bond I suspect she was something of a mystery to most people in the West. Compare that to Berry who'd been in Swordfish and X-Men prior to Bond, and in fact had been around for years (I always forget she was in the Flitstones). She had added notariety from the whole Swordfish/topless angle, and, though I'm not sure, had she already been FHM's sexiest woman by now? I wouldn't disagree that she became truly A list until the Oscar, but I still think she was a much bigger name than either Yeoh or Hatcher, or any Bond girl before or since, though it pains me to say it. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 3 2011, 01:01 PM	#455
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Well it is definitley Skyfall, and the girl is Bérénice Marlohe...film to be set in Shanghai, Istanbul and, er, Scotland! __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 3 2011, 02:31 PM	#458
Whofan Fleet Captain	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Sounds just a bit like The World Is Not Enough-hopefully turns out better than that did.

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November 3 2011, 02:56 PM	#459
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Yeah I got a vague whiff of TWINE as well. Hopfully it is just a vague similarity. __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 3 2011, 03:02 PM	#460
JarodRussell Vice Admiral	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! I just hope it somehow ties into the Quantum story line. __________________ lol l /\

November 3 2011, 03:05 PM	#461
JacksonArcher Vice Admiral	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Roger Deakins as cinematographer? Holy hell. __________________ Bane: "When Gotham is ashes... you have my permission to die." - The Dark Knight Rises

November 3 2011, 03:12 PM	#462
Samurai8472 Vice Admiral	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Mendes certainly brings in the talent __________________ "Inception" is a layer cake.

November 3 2011, 03:43 PM	#464
Starkers Admiral Location: Behind enemy lines...	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! They seem to be suggesting it'll feel more like CR than QoS. I'm guessing Skyfall refers to the sky metaphorically falling in on M's head! I wonder if this'll be Dench's last film? (last Bond film that is!) __________________ Werewolves on the Moon Now with Star Trek Into Darkness review The Devils of Amber Street

November 3 2011, 03:53 PM	#465
Whofan Fleet Captain	Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012! Yeah, I think it's been stated that this is probably her last Bond. I think that makers her the second longest running M after Lee (Although one can say she played two different Ms)