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Old October 31 2011, 10:39 PM   #166
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Re: Planet of the Titans U.S.S. Enterprise

I didn't think this design could get any better, but you have done it.

In the other McQuarrie-prise threads here, we learned that Ken Adam, who did the space station in MOONRAKER, wanted a very flat saucer that was designed to become a base, where the bridge, landing pad, and antenna farm would all rise up, making for a very busy design. McQuarries own saucer had a rounder edge than Adams did.

This design here is an excellant intermediate choice. It might be nice to perhaps have a similar extensible dish on the bottom of the secondary hull. You might remember the SNARK, a proposed design for the Nostromo in ALIEN, that had an entire topside that was a dish. A smaller version of that on the bottom would allow this very large ship to be like our old submarine, the Triton--a radar picket sub that was very large and was the only dual reactor sub the US ever had.

This ship, what with the dish treatment you have added, screams section 31--a ship designed to be a mobile listening post as much as a carrier...
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Old October 31 2011, 10:46 PM   #167
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Beautiful ship! I would love to have seen this design used as the Enterprise-D in TNG. Much better looking!
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Old November 2 2011, 12:34 AM   #168
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In a way I kind of agree - it'd be interesting to see a TNG-aesthetic applied to these proportions.

As it looks right now, it makes me think of some kind of late TOS / pre-TMP era Excelsior concept testbed (maybe one that ended up being lost for some Treknical reason?). Either way, it looks gorgeous - and much better without the blue glowy thing above the deflector
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Old November 2 2011, 01:37 AM   #169
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That's a nice design.

Although I don't understand the need for the dish on the primary hull next to the bridge.
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Old November 2 2011, 01:48 AM   #170
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Ana absolutely gorgeous design which defies traditions. The antenna dish seems a bit out of place, but overall this is a truly amazing ship design.

An unorthodox primary hull, nice saucer, big powerfu; ylons... What's not to love?
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Old November 2 2011, 02:17 AM   #171
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The Planet of the Titan's mock up was, absolutely, the ugliest think I've ever seen proposed as "the Enterprise."

This is beautiful.

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Old November 2 2011, 03:51 AM   #172
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That's a nice design.

Although I don't understand the need for the dish on the primary hull next to the bridge.
I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but if not...

The Main hull of this concept as originally drawn was able to land on planets and act as a research base. That's when the dish would be deployed normally.
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Old November 3 2011, 01:03 PM   #173
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Ahh, she's capable of landing, eh? That makes it a good deal more interesting and practical to have some sort of a dish on the ship.

This is the same sort of mission the later Nova class ships were designed to accomplish. Nice to see some vessels designed to incorporate landing and research capacities into their mission profiles.

Will there be any landing pads incorporated into the design?
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Old November 3 2011, 06:33 PM   #174
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Only the primary hull lands to form the research base.
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Old November 5 2011, 07:06 AM   #175
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Thanks for the comments everyone. As for the position of the dish, I like it off center, a little asymmetry breaks up the mirror effect. As for landing pads, I'm leaning towards no. I realize that in the concept drawings the antennae are only deployed when the primary hull is shown on a planet's surface, however, I really don't see a need for that in a universe with transporters and shuttlecraft. So why did I bother with the dish at all, just more of nod to the original concept and I thought it might generate some thoughtful speculation as to what it's purpose actually is. Is it another deflector? A sensor array? Communications? A weapon? I'm just going to leave the explanation blank for now. I'm planning on getting some work done on it this weekend so hopefully I'll have some more pics up soon. In the mean time...

Some other stuff I'm working on...

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Old November 5 2011, 08:47 AM   #176
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Cool ships
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Old November 5 2011, 09:41 PM   #177
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I love the Oscar. --Less smooth, but dangerous...
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Old November 5 2011, 10:43 PM   #178
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I keep coming back to this, I can not help but feel this is one of the best starship designs there is. Truly one of the most evocative design I've seen. Powerfull, gracefull, looks like she's build for speed and power yet somehow when you see it there's a tranquill effect to her.
Simply stunning.
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Old November 6 2011, 09:53 AM   #179
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With the rest of the shapes you're working with there, I feel like "Oscar" should have the nacelles straight up and down rather than paired up top.
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Old November 7 2011, 01:30 PM   #180
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Bluefin and Sineus both look promising; not so sure about the other two just yet - I'm ready to be persuaded otherwise though!

On the antenna: I think it looks better when not deployed, as though it might some some other kind of high-powered sensor dome (kept separate from the Bridge dome to allow easy swapover of either unit without having to dick about with the other...)

I too would love to see a TNG version of the NX-27CLN; or even a commissioned TMP/Excelsior production run, assuming trials were successful.
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