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Old October 25 2011, 02:44 PM   #16
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Yeah, I never got why the various episode guides and such counted both parts as one episode. One story, sure; but it's definitely two episodes. It even aired on two separate weeks.
Evidently it was counted as one episode in the original production numbers. The production numbers for "The Menagerie" are 6149-16A and 6149-16B, so officially both parts were counted as episode 16. I guess the numbering conventions in Hollywood were different at the time, or maybe it was a Desilu convention and Paramount used a different numbering system.


Which raises another question-- could "The Cage" have even happened to Captain Pike in this timeline? I'm not sure of the date that it took place, but it seems with Kirk now being in charge of the Enterprise during the time that Pike originally had been, it might end up happening to Kirk instead.
"The Cage" happened in 2254, which would be about a year before Abramsverse Kirk enrolled in the Academy -- at which point the Abramsverse Enterprise would've still been in the early stages of construction. So it's conceivable that Pike could've gone to Talos IV, but it would've had to be on a different ship.

Of course, these comics are playing pretty damn fast and loose with the timing of these retold stories, putting them in 2258 or so even though the Prime versions happened in 2265-7.
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Old October 25 2011, 05:28 PM   #17
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Which raises another question-- could "The Cage" have even happened to Captain Pike in this timeline?
Maybe not, but fate has put Pike in a mobility chair in both timelines.
I never thought that movie-Pike was permanently confined to a wheelchair. I thought then, and still think now, that Pike was in a wheelchair because he'd just suffered from torture at Nero's hands and his legs weren't strong enough to support him at that point in time.
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Old October 25 2011, 08:51 PM   #18
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I never thought that movie-Pike was permanently confined to a wheelchair.
Did I say permanently?
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Old October 25 2011, 08:58 PM   #19
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I never thought that movie-Pike was permanently confined to a wheelchair.
Did I say permanently?
Not with those exact words, no. But by equating the two situations, it was certainly the impression you left.
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Not with those exact words, no. But by equating the two situations, it was certainly the impression you left.
Which is what happened last time I posted the observation. Sometimes there's no amount of self-editing that can help a situation.

We were supposed to equate the two situations. IIRC, the writers said in interviews that they put their Pike into that situation so we would.
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Old October 26 2011, 04:49 AM   #21
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Evidently it was counted as one episode in the original production numbers. The production numbers for "The Menagerie" are 6149-16A and 6149-16B, so officially both parts were counted as episode 16. I guess the numbering conventions in Hollywood were different at the time, or maybe it was a Desilu convention and Paramount used a different numbering system.
Well, despite being a two-parter, there was only one episode's worth of material to produce, so a single production number makes sense.
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