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Old October 21 2011, 02:04 PM   #61
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

Well, this is certainly an interesting development. I would say the movie is most likely to exist in it own continuity, better for hooking non-fans that way. My interpretation of the "not conflicting with Ron Moore" thing is that they'll likely be borrowing elements from nuBSG and its set-up. The Fleet will likely have a clearly defined civilian leadership, Galactica will be very much depicted as an aircraft carrier in space, possibly down to carrier terms and titles being used (like CAG). Maybe there will be human models of the Cylons, they'd save money having an ordinary looking human giving Cylons orders than having a lizard man with an affro be the Imperious Leader.
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Old October 21 2011, 02:35 PM   #62
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New Battlestar Galactica Film From Bryan Singer And John Orloff To Co-Exist In TV Showís Universe

Iím a huge fan of the original series and of the second show, too. But I always thought the first show was a little too heavily reliant on Star Wars, you know? Whereas I think the second show was really original and really cool.

And I think Iíve come up with a way to write this movie that wonít fuck any of that up. Iím not sure how much they want me to talk about it. Letís just say itís not what you expect. It will all work in the universe that exists. It will not conflict with anything Ron Moore has done.
There's a smart guy.

I'm sure that the way the "solution" will appear in the movie will absorb a lot less time than did the "alternate universe" set-up for Abrams's Star Trek - that, after all, was central to being able to use Leonard Nimoy. If there's a rationale given for the co-existence of nuBSG anld oldBSG, I expect it'll be a line or two somewhere.
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Old October 21 2011, 06:12 PM   #63
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I just find a do-over so soon is disrespectful to "nuBSG". And it's more proof that Hollywood is devoid of original ideas.
But that's completely irrelevant. If someone can sell the studio on the idea that they can make money doing it, it will be done.
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Old October 21 2011, 06:47 PM   #64
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New Battlestar Galactica Film From Bryan Singer And John Orloff To Co-Exist In TV Show’s Universe

I’m a huge fan of the original series and of the second show, too. But I always thought the first show was a little too heavily reliant on Star Wars, you know? Whereas I think the second show was really original and really cool.

And I think I’ve come up with a way to write this movie that won’t fuck any of that up. I’m not sure how much they want me to talk about it. Let’s just say it’s not what you expect. It will all work in the universe that exists. It will not conflict with anything Ron Moore has done.
There's a smart guy.

I'm sure that the way the "solution" will appear in the movie will absorb a lot less time than did the "alternate universe" set-up for Abrams's Star Trek - that, after all, was central to being able to use Leonard Nimoy. If there's a rationale given for the co-existence of nuBSG anld oldBSG, I expect it'll be a line or two somewhere.
It'll be just like Superman Returns. In the end, nobody cares if it follows continuity or canon or schmanon.

But I wonder if Singer's going to re-use the original series music theme.
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Old October 21 2011, 07:12 PM   #65
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I'd say whereas Moore's is set in the past, this one is set in the future; either the RDM Cylons went back to the colonies and evolved there and are repeating the cycle or it's set in reverse; our Cylons destroy Earth and man sets out to find the colonies.
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Old October 21 2011, 07:41 PM   #66
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You can probably bet on the oldBSG theme being used.

Who ought to play Adama? Someone elsewhere mentioned suggested Liam Neeson.
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Old October 21 2011, 08:18 PM   #67
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Thing is, BSG is about the last remnants of humanity fleeing for their lives after their homeworlds are obliterated. That's not exactly a cheerful topic. It's supposed to be dark and depressing. And while nuBSG at times got a bit too dreary, it felt much more natural than "Our homes have just been destroyed and our loved ones slaughtered. Let's hit the Space Casino."
When they went there they had no idea there as a casino there nor did they do that every week.
Not only that, but the fans of Moore's version who dismiss the original conviently ignore the fact that Carrilon was hiding Ovions who were kidnapping a eating humans in the lower levels.

Hardly a happy situation.
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Old October 21 2011, 08:22 PM   #68
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http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/in-conte...lactica-reboot

The whole quote:
"I'm a huge fan of the original series and of the second show, too. But I always thought the first show was a little too heavily reliant on 'Star Wars,' you know? Whereas I think the second show was really original and really cool. And I think I've come up with a way to write this movie that won't fuck any of that up. I'm not sure how much they want me to talk about it. Let's just say it's not what you expect. It will all work in the universe that exists. It will not conflict with anything Ron Moore has done. I don't think you can compete with what he's done.

"I'm actually a science fiction geek more than anything. I just sort of got type cast as sort of a non-fiction screenwriter. That's because the first thing I ever wrote was 'Anonymous' and then my first job was 'Band of Brothers,' and that led to 'A Mighty Heart.' But I'm a total 'Star Wars' geek. I was a huge 'Star Trek' nut. '2001' is probably my favorite film. Stanley Kubrick is my favorite director; every movie is like a novel in the sense of the metaphoric depths of his thinking. And so my whole life I've always wanted to write a space epic. So to finally get a chance to write in the genre that I wanted to write basically forever is really cool."
That quote right there, I really don't think bodes well for you old guard hoping for an old show reboot. As much as he says he loved the old show and the new, he then goes on to fawn all over the new show as if it's wank material for him.

I have no idea what it means for the new guard, but... it certainly intrigues me a bit more than anything else I've yet heard about this.

That said, I'm of the firm belief that whatever is done will be a reboot with no connection to either show. It won't be the old show continued, it won't be the new show continued. It will, at best, be an amalgamation of both. Designed to produce broad appeal from the masses unaware of Battlestar.
Which, at this point, is probably the best way to go about it.
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Old October 21 2011, 08:24 PM   #69
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You can probably bet on the oldBSG theme being used.

Who ought to play Adama? Someone elsewhere mentioned suggested Liam Neeson.
That works for me.

I wonder if Starbuck's still going to be a girl?
Does this mean people will still be screaming GINO?
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Old October 21 2011, 08:56 PM   #70
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Thing is, BSG is about the last remnants of humanity fleeing for their lives after their homeworlds are obliterated. That's not exactly a cheerful topic. It's supposed to be dark and depressing.
There are ways to do that topic that aren't as self-flagellating as RDM's version - more us vs. them and straightforwardly vengeful. That kind of simple approach is going to be necessary to a big-budget summer popcorn flick anyway.

There are plenty of other TV properties that have been away long enough that doing new movie versions now would seem like fresh ideas. Babylon 5 and Farscape come immediately to mind.
Neither of those lend themselves as well to the mindless us-vs-them blow-em up spectacle that this movie no doubt will be, because that's what sells. And it would be far more grotesque to see B5 or Farscape treated that way; I don't give a flip about the original BSG so they can do whatever they like with it.

I wonder if Starbuck's still going to be a girl?
Doubtful.
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Old October 21 2011, 09:05 PM   #71
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Not only that, but the fans of Moore's version who dismiss the original conviently[sic] ignore the fact that Carrilon was hiding Ovions who were kidnapping a eating humans in the lower levels.
A plot which was proceeding nicely only because the human characters were written as too stupid to find their asses with both hands ("Just snatch 'em off the elevators! They'll never be missed!").

All that's necessary in order to dismiss that series as written down for what the producers must have considered the lowest common denominator is to sit down and watch it. There is no respect shown for the intelligence of the audience whatever.
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Old October 21 2011, 09:06 PM   #72
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Re: Talk of Bryan Singer's BSG project resurfaces

Even as a big fan of RDM's take, now I'm slightly less onboard with this. I guess I could see a First Cylon War situation being doable, but sometimes I think it's fine to just have something stand on it's own.

Of course, all BSG products can fit together under the "all this has happened before and will happen again" banner, but I don't want to see them forcing something that shouldn't be forced.
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Old October 21 2011, 09:07 PM   #73
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I can't see them being in continuity with Ron Moore's series while simuntaneously recasting Adama unless it's some kind of Cylon War movie (which naturally I doubt), so some kind of alternate universe nod similar to Star Trek's reboot, as mentioned, seems the most probable genuflection to nuBSG.

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There are plenty of other TV properties that have been away long enough that doing new movie versions now would seem like fresh ideas. Babylon 5 and Farscape come immediately to mind.
Neither of those lend themselves as well to the mindless us-vs-them blow-em up spectacle that this movie no doubt will be, because that's what sells.
Honestly, they both do. Farscape has an evil interstellar empire who is hunting down the escaped convict 'heroes', reasons changigng but the most important one being that they're in the possession of a McGuffin - here, wormholes, although another franchise had something called Death Star plans...

Honestly that's a premise ripe for exploitation as a Star Wars like spectacle.

And Babylon 5's overarc is basically an ancient evil returning to space, with strong overtones of Lord of the Rings. It plays around with the idea later, but a coming-of-the-shadows type film would huge deadly spaceships could be similarly filmable.

Honestly? A simpler question is what space operas do not lend themselves well to film. Most all can quickly use the Star Wars formula, in many cases - specfically oldBSG, obviously - because they're using that formula already.

And it would be far more grotesque to see B5 or Farscape treated that way; I don't give a flip about the original BSG so they can do whatever they like with it.
This is true. I have no real investment in the old BSG so I can approach a new remake of it open-minded, but a film that trashed say Farscape would bother me a little more.

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You can probably bet on the oldBSG theme being used.

Who ought to play Adama? Someone elsewhere mentioned suggested Liam Neeson.
Works for me. Lance Reddick for Tigh?
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Old October 21 2011, 09:30 PM   #74
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As long as an older Mark Schultz gets to command the ship as Admiral Jolly this time, it's all good. Always liked that guy.
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Old October 21 2011, 09:52 PM   #75
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For Farscape and B5 to be turned into a Transformers type spectacle would strip them of everything that made them worthwhile in the first place. Of course I could always boycott the resulting travesty but I'm happier knowing it's very unlikely to happen in the first place.
A simpler question is what space operas do not lend themselves well to film.
I'm sure most if not all of them lend themselves to being filmed in some way. I was talking about the way this BSG movie is likely to end up: like Transformers.

I can't see them being in continuity with Ron Moore's series while simuntaneously recasting Adama unless it's some kind of Cylon War movie (which naturally I doubt), so some kind of alternate universe nod similar to Star Trek's reboot, as mentioned, seems the most probable genuflection to nuBSG.
Nobody should get their hopes up about any genuflections. nuBSG will be roundly ignored. This isn't an Abrams-Trek situation. They won't in alternative universes, they will be two stories that share the same name and some characters' and ships' proper names and have nothing else to do with each other.

Lance Reddick for Tigh?
Adama will be played by some old guy, but the rest of the cast is going to need to skew hot & young. Lance Reddick is no box office draw.
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