DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) - Page 106

Admiral_Young · October 20 2011, 05:48 PM

Yep. I temporarily forgot their name when describing in them in my post.

davejames · October 20 2011, 07:03 PM

Admiral_Young wrote:

My guess from the way things have been depicted so far is that they will encounter each other while investigating the boxes (which I'm guessing could be micro boob tubes or tesseracts of somekind) while ruffling each others feathers along the way while learning to work together to solve the crisis at hand. Then after they are together they decide they can work together and form the Justice League. I'm guessing they nominate Superman as their leader and Bruce will give his "Gotham gets my priority but alert me if there is something actually seriously you need my help with and maybe I'll aide you guys" speech. Then the second arc flash forwards to the present and we see how the roster has expanded, etc.

Actually as much as I'm enjoying this new, harder-edged take on Superman, I'm having a hard time imagining him being the "leader" of the Justice League now. He just seems like too much of a loose cannon.

To me, Batman would be the more obvious choice, being clearly the most adult person in the group.

Admiral Buzzkill · October 20 2011, 07:09 PM

Yeah, but this is five years ago.

Still, making Batman the leader would make some sense. Whatever qualities he brings to that would give him something to do besides being the obvious weak link to be stepped on.

Admiral Buzzkill · October 20 2011, 07:10 PM

davejames wrote:

Yeah I would have been fine if his Cyborg persona had already been established, but the way they're trying to shoehorn in his origin story just feels distracting.

He's a character that I don't know much about, so I'm finding the whole origin thing interesting.

Trekker4747 · October 20 2011, 07:33 PM

I think Aquaman should be leader of The Justice League.

I mean, he's pretty much useless so why not let him feel like he's contributing?

Broccoli · October 20 2011, 07:37 PM

But he can TALK TO FISH!

You just wait until they fight some water-based bad guy...

Trekker4747 · October 20 2011, 07:42 PM

I wonder if when the Justice League meets if Aquaman is pretty much like an annoying little kid wanting to help his dad fix the car.

"Can I help?! Can I help?!"

Batman: "Sure, AC. You can, um... Here hold the flashlight."

Captain Craig · October 20 2011, 07:46 PM

^^^
SIGH, you guys just refuse to let go of the 70's stigma that SuperFriends placed on Aquaman.

Just wait till issue 4, I'm sure you'll have an excuse for it but just wait.

Trekker4747 · October 20 2011, 07:51 PM

"It's okay, Aquaman. You're important too. Sure, sure, Superman can do everything you can than plus a zillion other things, but there's plenty for you to do around here. Both you and Flash are very important to us and we'd hate to lose you."

Nerys Myk · October 20 2011, 07:54 PM

Amphibious, superstrong and a telepath. I think he might be able to do more than hold a flashlight. I think the guy who's just a human in a bat themed suit is clearly the designated flashlight holder. They can let him call it a "Bat-Light" to make him feel better.

Professor Zoom · October 20 2011, 07:54 PM

Captain Craig wrote:

^^^
SIGH, you guys just refuse to let go of the 70's stigma that SuperFriends placed on Aquaman.

Just wait till issue 4, I'm sure you'll have an excuse for it but just wait.

Or go back and read Morrison's run on Justice League. Aquaman was pretty bad ass there.

Hartzilla2007 · October 20 2011, 08:21 PM

Myasishchev wrote:

Zombie Cheerleader wrote:

Trekker4747 wrote:

All fine and good, doesn't mean Batman should be taking the kid out to kick the ass of killers, thieves and madmen.

Pretty sure that's been in the Robin job description since the 40s.

Indeed. And it's one more reason to hate Batman. Everybody wins.

At least Batman doesn't abandon his kids like another superhero tends to do cough superman cough

Admiral_Young · October 20 2011, 08:21 PM

Currently Batman is acting like the leader of them...he's the only one who seems to have his shit together. It will be interesting to see what happens when we flash forward.

When has Superman abandoned his "kids"? That was only created for Young Justice. He was a mentor to Connor when he finally accepted him in the previous continuity. Who do you think gave Connor his names? He's never been a father figure in the comics. A mentor yes, but not like Bruce with all the Robins.

Hartzilla2007 · October 20 2011, 08:58 PM

davejames wrote:

Admiral_Young wrote:

My guess from the way things have been depicted so far is that they will encounter each other while investigating the boxes (which I'm guessing could be micro boob tubes or tesseracts of somekind) while ruffling each others feathers along the way while learning to work together to solve the crisis at hand. Then after they are together they decide they can work together and form the Justice League. I'm guessing they nominate Superman as their leader and Bruce will give his "Gotham gets my priority but alert me if there is something actually seriously you need my help with and maybe I'll aide you guys" speech. Then the second arc flash forwards to the present and we see how the roster has expanded, etc.

Actually as much as I'm enjoying this new, harder-edged take on Superman, I'm having a hard time imagining him being the "leader" of the Justice League now. He just seems like too much of a loose cannon.

To me, Batman would be the more obvious choice, being clearly the most adult person in the group.

My Name Is Legion wrote:

Yeah, but this is five years ago.

Still, making Batman the leader would make some sense. Whatever qualities he brings to that would give him something to do besides being the obvious weak link to be stepped on.

Yeah the only major problem with Bats as the leader might be his sort of JLI membership though.

Zombie Cheerleader wrote:

Amphibious, superstrong and a telepath. I think he might be able to do more than hold a flashlight. I think the guy who's just a human in a bat themed suit is clearly the designated flashlight holder. They can let him call it a "Bat-Light" to make him feel better.

Considering the "human in a bat themed suit" seems to be the only adult in the room with the NuJLA I'd take him over the other yahoos.

Admiral_Young wrote:

Currently Batman is acting like the leader of them...he's the only one who seems to have his shit together. It will be interesting to see what happens when we flash forward.

True though from JLI it doesn't look like Batman changes that much.

When has Superman abandoned his "kids"? That was only created for Young Justice. He was a mentor to Connor when he finally accepted him in the previous continuity. Who do you think gave Connor his names? He's never been a father figure in the comics. A mentor yes, but not like Bruce with all the Robins.

There is also the whole Superman Returns thing.

That being said I was only trying to point out that when you think about it Batman isn't nearly as bad as some of the other DC heavy hiters.

Admiral_Young · October 20 2011, 09:00 PM

He didn't know about Jason though. That doesn't count. Batman leading the Justice League would never happen. He cares and is obsessed with protecting too much. I could see him being their operations and tactical adviser and providing them with tech like he has previously. They way they've been promoting Vic Stone in the books, I could easily see him being leader of the League.

October 20 2011, 05:48 PM	#1576
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Yep. I temporarily forgot their name when describing in them in my post. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

October 20 2011, 07:09 PM	#1578
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Yeah, but this is five years ago. Still, making Batman the leader would make some sense. Whatever qualities he brings to that would give him something to do besides being the obvious weak link to be stepped on. __________________ "I think [J.J. Abrams has] done a great thing for Star Trek. I’m very grateful to him. We all owe him a lot. When someone comes along like he has done and picks it up and elevates it, we should be grateful." - Leonard Nimoy

October 20 2011, 07:33 PM	#1580
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) I think Aquaman should be leader of The Justice League. I mean, he's pretty much useless so why not let him feel like he's contributing?

October 20 2011, 07:37 PM	#1581
Broccoli Vice Admiral Location: Broccoli	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) But he can TALK TO FISH! You just wait until they fight some water-based bad guy... __________________ "That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

October 20 2011, 07:42 PM	#1582
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) I wonder if when the Justice League meets if Aquaman is pretty much like an annoying little kid wanting to help his dad fix the car. "Can I help?! Can I help?!" Batman: "Sure, AC. You can, um... Here hold the flashlight."

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October 20 2011, 07:46 PM	#1583
Captain Craig Vice Admiral Location: Nashville,TN	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) ^^^ SIGH, you guys just refuse to let go of the 70's stigma that SuperFriends placed on Aquaman. Just wait till issue 4, I'm sure you'll have an excuse for it but just wait. __________________ "Picard never hit me." Q-Less(DS9) "Freedom is the Right of All Sentient Beings" Optimus Prime Twitter:http://twitter.com/#!/CaptainCraig1

October 20 2011, 07:51 PM	#1584
Trekker4747 To boldly go... Location: Kansas City	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) "It's okay, Aquaman. You're important too. Sure, sure, Superman can do everything you can than plus a zillion other things, but there's plenty for you to do around here. Both you and Flash are very important to us and we'd hate to lose you."

October 20 2011, 07:54 PM	#1585
Nerys Myk Admiral Location: House of Kang, now with ridges	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Amphibious, superstrong and a telepath. I think he might be able to do more than hold a flashlight. I think the guy who's just a human in a bat themed suit is clearly the designated flashlight holder. They can let him call it a "Bat-Light" to make him feel better. __________________ Nerys Myk's Midnight In Never Land A novel of Dark Fantasy @ Amazon.com

October 20 2011, 08:21 PM	#1588
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) Currently Batman is acting like the leader of them...he's the only one who seems to have his shit together. It will be interesting to see what happens when we flash forward. When has Superman abandoned his "kids"? That was only created for Young Justice. He was a mentor to Connor when he finally accepted him in the previous continuity. Who do you think gave Connor his names? He's never been a father figure in the comics. A mentor yes, but not like Bruce with all the Robins. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

October 20 2011, 09:00 PM	#1590
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely) He didn't know about Jason though. That doesn't count. Batman leading the Justice League would never happen. He cares and is obsessed with protecting too much. I could see him being their operations and tactical adviser and providing them with tech like he has previously. They way they've been promoting Vic Stone in the books, I could easily see him being leader of the League. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.