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Old October 9 2011, 07:25 PM   #1351
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

Everything has been "re-started". Constaine is in Justice League: Dark and I, Vampire.


Awesome news regarding the Legion in Action Comics. I was hoping we would actually get to see them.
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Old October 9 2011, 08:10 PM   #1352
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Old October 9 2011, 08:21 PM   #1353
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Yeah...big fail on my part. Constantine.
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Old October 9 2011, 08:30 PM   #1354
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Our first 52 Verse glimpse of Stephanie Brown! Leviathan Strikes can't get here soon enough...


http://dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/...436173/cssteph
Curious if there will be a massive, minor or just return of the old Spoiler costume.
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Old October 9 2011, 08:31 PM   #1355
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Yeah...big fail on my part. Constantine.
Well, it's still pretty descriptive, and it's a word he'd have used.
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Old October 9 2011, 08:46 PM   #1356
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Our first 52 Verse glimpse of Stephanie Brown! Leviathan Strikes can't get here soon enough...
http://dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/...436173/cssteph
Curious if there will be a massive, minor or just return of the old Spoiler costume.
Strictly speaking, she should still be Batgirl in this story; it's the continuation of Batgirl #22, where Batman sends Batgirl to London on a mission for Batman, Inc. However, DC has said elsewhere that she's Spoiler in this story, so it's not the continuation of Batgirl #22 anymore.

If you're going to redesign Steph's Spoiler costume, I like Dean Trippe's remake from Project: Rooftop a few years ago, which is a little bit Robin, a little bit Spoiler. Mike Maihack's Steph-Robin costume (same link) is nice, too; I'd just color it purple/black to make it a Spoiler costume.
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Old October 9 2011, 09:21 PM   #1357
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^^^
Not a bad combo redesign. If they went something that route I could see it working.

Last night I read my last few DC books for the week.

Swamp Thing #2 - Ok, so let me get this straight and see if I understood what I just read, Swamp Thing is now a mantle? A host to become Swamp Thing not too unlike passing down a GL ring? The Swamp Thing identified himself as a guy named Rodgers who was pilot in WWII and is trying to convince Holland to become A Swamp Thing? I didn't get the feeling based on what I read that he was going to go away if Holland became a Swamp Thing 'for real'. Also, am I to assume then that Holland has now NEVER been Swamp Thing? It was all some trippy mind job by the Parliament of Trees. In addition it does seem that with mentions of The Red a few times in the issue we are headed for an Animal Man crossover at some point should both titles continue for some time.

Huntress #1 - Nothing in the story to jump out as ground breaking. It was efficient and well paced. The art was really good. I may just wait for the TPB though. Got issue 1 to sample it. I don't think this story just screams, "So crucial and relevant to so much else you must follow monthly."
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Old October 9 2011, 09:24 PM   #1358
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Our first 52 Verse glimpse of Stephanie Brown! Leviathan Strikes can't get here soon enough...
http://dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/...436173/cssteph
Curious if there will be a massive, minor or just return of the old Spoiler costume.
Strictly speaking, she should still be Batgirl in this story; it's the continuation of Batgirl #22, where Batman sends Batgirl to London on a mission for Batman, Inc. However, DC has said elsewhere that she's Spoiler in this story, so it's not the continuation of Batgirl #22 anymore.

If you're going to redesign Steph's Spoiler costume, I like Dean Trippe's remake from Project: Rooftop a few years ago, which is a little bit Robin, a little bit Spoiler. Mike Maihack's Steph-Robin costume (same link) is nice, too; I'd just color it purple/black to make it a Spoiler costume.
I'm guess the spoiler costume will be whatever it's easiest to re-colour in the old Bat-girl costume and cut off the ears?
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Old October 9 2011, 10:53 PM   #1359
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I'm assuming DiDio and editorial "forced" Morrison to make the changes to Steph in the book as they did with Dick stepping down as Batman. I'm expecting Steph's redesigned Spoiler costume to be segmented like the rest of the costumes and perhaps to feature some kind of Bat logo design to it...
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Old October 9 2011, 11:12 PM   #1360
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DC editorial can't force Morrison to do anything. His run on Batman is pretty emblematic of that.

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Swamp Thing #2 - Ok, so let me get this straight and see if I understood what I just read, Swamp Thing is now a mantle? A host to become Swamp Thing not too unlike passing down a GL ring? The Swamp Thing identified himself as a guy named Rodgers who was pilot in WWII and is trying to convince Holland to become A Swamp Thing? I didn't get the feeling based on what I read that he was going to go away if Holland became a Swamp Thing 'for real'. Also, am I to assume then that Holland has now NEVER been Swamp Thing?
Yes. It was established in the beginning of Alan Moore's run on the character that the original Swamp Thing was never Alec Holland, but a creature of the parliament of trees that had absorbed the memories of Alec Holland. What this issue did was a reversal, Alec Holland now gains the memories of the original Swamp Thing.
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Old October 9 2011, 11:17 PM   #1361
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They forced him to delay Batman, Inc a few months.
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Old October 9 2011, 11:22 PM   #1362
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That seems to be purely scheduling due to issues with the artists.
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Old October 9 2011, 11:25 PM   #1363
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On the surface it does, but I don't think it was just the artists, I'd have to go back and see if Morrison's original "status report" was on the series after the New 52 was announced. It doesn't really matter.
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Old October 10 2011, 01:44 AM   #1364
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So what does everyone think will become of Gordon in DC after what "Dollmaker" has done with him?
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DC editorial can't force Morrison to do anything. His run on Batman is pretty emblematic of that.

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Swamp Thing #2 - Ok, so let me get this straight and see if I understood what I just read, Swamp Thing is now a mantle? A host to become Swamp Thing not too unlike passing down a GL ring? The Swamp Thing identified himself as a guy named Rodgers who was pilot in WWII and is trying to convince Holland to become A Swamp Thing? I didn't get the feeling based on what I read that he was going to go away if Holland became a Swamp Thing 'for real'. Also, am I to assume then that Holland has now NEVER been Swamp Thing?
Yes. It was established in the beginning of Alan Moore's run on the character that the original Swamp Thing was never Alec Holland, but a creature of the parliament of trees that had absorbed the memories of Alec Holland. What this issue did was a reversal, Alec Holland now gains the memories of the original Swamp Thing.
Which makes me never want to reward DC with money in exchange for Swamp Thing ever again. It's one thing to blow up Mogo, it's another to blow up "The Anatomy Lesson." Geoff, I know Alan Moore hurt your feelings, but you've got to be a grown-up about this.

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I'm assuming DiDio and editorial "forced" Morrison to make the changes to Steph in the book as they did with Dick stepping down as Batman. I'm expecting Steph's redesigned Spoiler costume to be segmented like the rest of the costumes and perhaps to feature some kind of Bat logo design to it...
I don't even get it. It doesn't make sense at all. I mean, in a world with tons of former Robins (and a former Batman) and dozens of current Green Lanterns, I don't really understand why Batgirl III needs to be the Spoiler again. Is it for the straights? The straights don't care. My pet theory is it's a personal dislike not of Stephanie Brown's character so much as Stephanie Brown's fanbase. You know, people who have made it a mission to be obnoxious (albeit, it must be said, for a good cause).
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