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Old September 27 2011, 05:48 PM   #916
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Ah, I was just about to post that link. Thanks.

And next week, on to seeing how the second issues do?

Watch for a lot of critical crowing about sales drop-offs, when anyone and everyone knows and expects that's going to happen. It'll be interesting to see what titles drop off the furtherest and fastest, though.
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Old September 27 2011, 05:58 PM   #917
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I think I, Vampire is the one that DC is aiming towards the twilight crowd so I'll be interested to see how it goes down...
I guess that is possible, however, aren't a large part of Twilight's fanbase 30+ yr old women outside the target demo of 8-16yr old girls? I know 7-8 women 30+ who love Twilight but wouldn't think, let alone even know of this book as part of the DC relaunch...if they even know the relaunch is happening.

Those 3 pages on Bleeding Cool were, to me, much darker than any Twilight. Felt more Angel meets Blades son of Underworld.

I'll report back on it after I've read it later in the week.
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Old September 27 2011, 07:05 PM   #918
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Don't know if anyone has posted to this link or not, but it is a thoughtful and provocative article from a woman's perspective about the way previously powerful female characters are now being handled in DC:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/0...-superheroine/

I haven't read the book, but unless there is some strange act that Kori is putting on, the panels that I've seen just look sad.
I was really looking forward to both of the comics discussed in the article, but I honestly don't know if I can after reading that. I did notice one thing though, when she mentions female superheroes she looked up to it was all Marvel characters. So that got me wondering, is Marvel any better when it comes to this kind of stuff?
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Old September 27 2011, 07:56 PM   #919
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And next week, on to seeing how the second issues do?
Outside of maybe The Flash, I doubt I'll be back for any second issues.

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Old September 27 2011, 07:59 PM   #920
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"I, Vampire" they've been promoting as a different kind of vampire story and I believe that it features John Constantaine, I maybe wrong about that but I seem to remember stumbling upon him during an interview with one of the book's writers.
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Old September 27 2011, 08:01 PM   #921
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Got Wonder Woman #1 yesterday, not a bad little book, beginning to a story, I guess. Nice artwork in it.
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Old September 27 2011, 09:03 PM   #922
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JD wrote: View Post
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Don't know if anyone has posted to this link or not, but it is a thoughtful and provocative article from a woman's perspective about the way previously powerful female characters are now being handled in DC:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/0...-superheroine/

I haven't read the book, but unless there is some strange act that Kori is putting on, the panels that I've seen just look sad.
I was really looking forward to both of the comics discussed in the article, but I honestly don't know if I can after reading that. I did notice one thing though, when she mentions female superheroes she looked up to it was all Marvel characters. So that got me wondering, is Marvel any better when it comes to this kind of stuff?
Comicsalliance usually give Marvel a pass with regards to some of the more sexist stuff.

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"I, Vampire" they've been promoting as a different kind of vampire story and I believe that it features John Constantaine, I maybe wrong about that but I seem to remember stumbling upon him during an interview with one of the book's writers.
The "Dark" corner with I Vampire, Demon Knights, Swamp Thing and Animal Man are suppose to be more connected in their own corner of the nuDCU.
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Old September 27 2011, 09:31 PM   #923
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Don't know if anyone has posted to this link or not, but it is a thoughtful and provocative article from a woman's perspective about the way previously powerful female characters are now being handled in DC:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/0...-superheroine/

I haven't read the book, but unless there is some strange act that Kori is putting on, the panels that I've seen just look sad.
I was really looking forward to both of the comics discussed in the article, but I honestly don't know if I can after reading that. I did notice one thing though, when she mentions female superheroes she looked up to it was all Marvel characters. So that got me wondering, is Marvel any better when it comes to this kind of stuff?
Something I heard today was kind of interesting: the events of Bendis' first issue of Alias are somewhat similar to the first issue of Winnick's Catwoman, but it manages to be about ten thousand times classier because it knows what it's doing.
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Old September 28 2011, 12:51 AM   #924
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Well, you know... it's Judd Winick.
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Old September 28 2011, 01:34 AM   #925
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Cute review remark at comicbookresources.com:

We all grouse about sex and violence in comics today, and DC's new lineup of titles has drawn its share of criticism for it. But only one book last week featured a naked woman in bed holding up a woman in her underwear by the throat before the two team up to go do something else. One changes into her bustier, choker, and knee-high boots (no pants), while offering nothing in the way of additional clothing to the woman parading around in her pink low-rise bikini panties and white camisole. Then the former straddles a horse and chops off an opponent's arm and --

-- it's the internet's favorite comic of the month...
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Old September 28 2011, 02:27 AM   #926
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The 24 page Justice League #1 re-compressed into 16 pages without losing any story.

A guide to how it was done here.

This underscores one of my biggest problems with comics today-- Marvel and DC and other-- is that they don't put enough story into a single issue for the price anymore.
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Old September 28 2011, 03:41 AM   #927
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Of course - by sacrificing the art.

I can find better writing than in almost any superhero comic in just about any paperback novel selected blindfold from the shelves at Barnes & Noble. Why am I looking at comics, again?
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Old September 28 2011, 03:51 AM   #928
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Cute review remark at comicbookresources.com:

We all grouse about sex and violence in comics today, and DC's new lineup of titles has drawn its share of criticism for it. But only one book last week featured a naked woman in bed holding up a woman in her underwear by the throat before the two team up to go do something else. One changes into her bustier, choker, and knee-high boots (no pants), while offering nothing in the way of additional clothing to the woman parading around in her pink low-rise bikini panties and white camisole. Then the former straddles a horse and chops off an opponent's arm and --

-- it's the internet's favorite comic of the month...
So, which title was it?
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Old September 28 2011, 03:56 AM   #929
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Wonder Woman.
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Old September 28 2011, 04:01 AM   #930
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I sort-of liked Wonder Woman, read Supergirl today and liked that one too. I may have to follow these titles too through their first arc.
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