AMC's The Walking Dead Season 1 Discussion & Spoilers

[Vendikarr]

Temis the Vorta wrote:

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Okay, I can't resist throwing this out there. CW's Awakenings has an ahem interesting take on zombolgy. I'll spoiler code it in case anyone wants to be surprised (but being part of the premise, it might be in the publicity anyway):

The two sisters who are the lead characters are both zombies. Instead of being mindless and all groady with body parts falling off, they're quite presentable and are basically just people who have an embarrassing appetite for human flesh. So the writers have essentially taken the vampire story and renamed the vampires "zombies."

Whaddya think? Brilliant twist or stupidest idea ever?

PS, Titus Welliver is still onboard as the zombie hunter, so I'll be watching the show regardless.

Zombies that look and seem like regular people but eat human flesh? Sounds like they want to make a show about cannibals but are calling them zombies since THE WALKING DEAD took off.

[Temis the Vorta]

Oy! According to this blog, Awakenings is a go. I won't even bother to be coy with spoiler coding since nobody seems to care...the zombies are apparently "pre-dead" (wtf, aren't we all?) and can morph from zombie to human form at will (now they're werewolves, too???)

I hope it does go to series. Then we can have compare-and-contrast threads between the two zombie shows.

[Silvercrest]

Pre-wha?????

And they can morph between a rotting, decaying zombie form and a beautiful human form at will. Gee, I wonder which one I'd choose.

Worst. Idea. Ever.

[Sindatur]

Temis the Vorta wrote:

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Oy! According to this blog, Awakenings is a go. I won't even bother to be coy with spoiler coding since nobody seems to care...the zombies are apparently "pre-dead" (wtf, aren't we all?) and can morph from zombie to human form at will (now they're werewolves, too???)

I hope it does go to series. Then we can have compare-and-contrast threads between the two zombie shows.

Oh, Geeze, this is sounding further and further out there, LOL

[Shurik]

Temis the Vorta wrote:

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Oy! According to this blog, Awakenings is a go. I won't even bother to be coy with spoiler coding since nobody seems to care...the zombies are apparently "pre-dead" (wtf, aren't we all?) and can morph from zombie to human form at will (now they're werewolves, too???)

I hope it does go to series. Then we can have compare-and-contrast threads between the two zombie shows.

Were-zombies? Best. Idea.Ever.

[Aragorn]

Why would they need to go back and forth between human and zombie mode? Is zombie mode supposed to make them super powerful and know kung fu?

Temis, you should start a new thread on this show.

[RJDiogenes]

Awakenings sounds more like Ghouls than Zombies.

[Silvercrest]

Aragorn wrote:

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Why would they need to go back and forth between human and zombie mode?

Actually, it kinda sounds like the crew of the Black Pearl.

[Temis the Vorta]

Aragorn wrote:

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Why would they need to go back and forth between human and zombie mode? Is zombie mode supposed to make them super powerful and know kung fu?

Temis, you should start a new thread on this show.

If I get more info on it, I just might. I'm not sure how much more I wanna know...

[JD]

Temis the Vorta wrote:

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Oy! According to this blog, Awakenings is a go. I won't even bother to be coy with spoiler coding since nobody seems to care...the zombies are apparently "pre-dead" (wtf, aren't we all?) and can morph from zombie to human form at will (now they're werewolves, too???)

I hope it does go to series. Then we can have compare-and-contrast threads between the two zombie shows.

All I can think to say to properly sum up my feelings here is WTF???
Oh, and as for intelligent zombies, does anyone else here watch Ugly Americans? Randall the zombie is my favorite character on the show. He's intelligent, but he's still a decaying, brain eating zombie who tends to lose body parts.

[the G-man]

Silvercrest wrote:

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Actually, it kinda sounds like the crew of the Black Pearl.

Presactly.

JD wrote:

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Oh, and as for intelligent zombies, does anyone else here watch Ugly Americans? Randall the zombie is my favorite character on the show. He's intelligent, but he's still a decaying, brain eating zombie who tends to lose body parts.

Love that show. Highly recommended.

Randall is great, but my favorite character is the she-devil girlfriend. The fact that she's the daughter of a human female and Satan AND her mother is drawn to look like Mia Farrow cracks me up.

[the G-man]

Temis the Vorta wrote:

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Okay, I can't resist throwing this out there. CW's Awakenings has an ahem interesting take on zombolgy. I'll spoiler code it in case anyone wants to be surprised (but being part of the premise, it might be in the publicity anyway):

The two sisters who are the lead characters are both zombies. Instead of being mindless and all groady with body parts falling off, they're quite presentable and are basically just people who have an embarrassing appetite for human flesh. So the writers have essentially taken the vampire story and renamed the vampires "zombies."

Whaddya think? Brilliant twist or stupidest idea ever?

It depends on the execution. That's basically the premise of Mike Allred's and Chris Roberson's "I Zombie" comic book and that's DC's best book right now.

Of course, the CW being the CW, I doubt the execution will be anywhere near as deft or well done as something by Mike Allred.

[Star Wolf]

Checkmate wrote:

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Right, but once the situation is understood and accepted, you adapt to it. You wouldn't freak out every waking moment of your existence. If you had the training and the equipment, you could fight back as necessary.

Of course, this also assumes that the stupidity of a zombie invasion were even remotely possible. To make that happen, it would have to have a tremendously long incubation period in which it's all but undetectable or where everyone is infected almost immediately somehow (which is basically what The Walking Dead is I guess), otherwise it would be as easily contained as any other viral outbreak. Which, you know, is why we're not all dead from ebola or any other nasty virus you can think of.

And, again, it's not like you'd be facing a cunning and well-organized opponent with an impressive infrastructure and travel capabilities. You're dealing with brain-dead zombies that shuffle along at ridiculously slow speed (unless dealing with the "new" ones that run at high speed for whatever silly reason) who are easily distracted by loud noises.

Zombie invasions require a lot of Stupid(tm) in order to make them even remotely believable. But if you're going to go about saying that the military is just going to freak out if one did happen and would instantly and forever be ineffective because every single soldier would be flailing their arms and screaming like a little girl 24/7, that's... well, that's covered by the Stupid(tm) brand.

Temis the Vorta wrote:

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I think the biggest problem would be simple denial. People would believe anything - alien invasion, government conspiracy, mass hallucination, End of Days - before they'd believe that the dead were rising (without any religious angle) and eating the living. For the newly killed people, there would also be denial that they are "really" dead in some irreversible way. Their loved ones would hold out hope that they can be cured - nobody would be around who could definitively tell them otherwise - and would be reluctant to shoot them in the head, even in self-defense.

Sindatur wrote:

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One also has to think about how long it would take for the masses to learn what it takes to actually kill them, without media being available. I mean, they're brain-dead, why would it occur to someone (unless they saw it in a zombie movie) that the way to kill them is to blow out their brains? And of, course, a real zombie invasion, wouldn't neccessarily follow the rules of commonly known zombie movie rules.

I just caught the show today. In the last episode when they flashback to the hospital the military had already adapted In MOPP 4 had taking head shots of all zombies put down.

The biggest problem would be ammo supply. Every soldier would run quickly through his basic load and the Rodney King riots teach us that the National Guard doesn't keep that much on hand for a Red Dawn/Battle:LA scenario. And even with one shot one kill you would just get one city block full of zombies and from there its hand to hand with swords being in short supply. Pure physical fatigue against an unexaustable enemy would soon enough see any small army overwhelmed.

[Silvercrest]

I would make a comment about this being a zombie thread, but I'm above that sort of thing.

[stonester1]

Just saw it. LOVED it.