Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) - Page 5

RAMA · September 24 2011, 01:06 PM

Peter is stuck in the TOS episode "the Tholian Web", and McCoy and Spock are going to have to work together to get him back!

Procutus · September 24 2011, 01:24 PM

^

And he'll appear to Asteroid when she's at home changing into her nightgown!

Ayelbourne · September 24 2011, 02:05 PM

OsmiumJohnnycake wrote:

So until the Watcher uses his Radio Shack device to erase Peter from time*, both Peters did exist, and Walter did cross over to steal Alt-Peter (the one we've seen for the last three seasons), but fails to save him. So you still have the foundation intact for why the Walters distrust each other and all that, you just don't have Peter involved in anything past the kidnapping. At least that's my interpretation.

Plus it explains why Walter doesn't recognize adult Peter as well as Walter's "Sometimes people die twice." remark.

AvBaur · September 24 2011, 02:07 PM

To review this episode, I'm gonna go with the title: 'Neither Here Nor There'

There is some interesting stuff, but the Peter-less universe didn't seem entirely convincing to me. I'm intigued but not exactly excited.

Checkmate · September 24 2011, 02:28 PM

I was pretty bored during this.

Peter has had a much bigger impact on the outcome of both worlds (moreso in "ours" for long term effects) than they're portraying. So much of it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever with his absence.

Forbin · September 24 2011, 03:39 PM

So they have a room between universes that they can just walk into now?

Handy!

Serial thread killer · September 24 2011, 04:50 PM

Was the warehouse where Joe Flanigan got turned in to a irrus bug, I mean killed the same one stargate Atlantis used for a bit of the Genii home world?

CaptainCanada · September 24 2011, 05:33 PM

I will say, I sort of think it was a mistake to include the first scene with Fauxlivia, given how the rest of the episode was structured. It was a good scene on its own, but the episode as a whole is more or less from Lincoln Lee's POV and builds up to his first encounter with the other side, personified by Fauxlivia; it would have been more effective if we hadn't seen her before that point.

Gotham Central · September 24 2011, 06:19 PM

If Peter is gone, why can't we get Charlie back? If time can be rewritten so that Oliva and Lincoln's original meeting did not happen...why not save Charlie and have both versions of Fringe Division have the same players.

Additionally...thatcwas a real waste of Joe Flannigan. One can only hope that there was more to it than what we saw.

CaptainCanada · September 24 2011, 07:02 PM

Kirk Acevedo is a regular on the new Prime Suspect, so you won't be seeing much of him anymore (he said that contractually he could do maybe three or four episodes), assuming that show lasts.

AvBaur · September 24 2011, 07:37 PM

CaptainCanada wrote:

(...), assuming that show lasts.

It probably won't: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51331

aelius · September 24 2011, 10:03 PM

Gotham Central wrote:

Additionally...that was a real waste of Joe Flannigan. One can only hope that there was more to it than what we saw.

I kind of expect him to turn up on the AltFringe team. Or at least have Lincoln have to interact with the alternate version of him at some point.

Mr. Adventure · September 24 2011, 10:24 PM

AvBaur wrote:

CaptainCanada wrote:

(...), assuming that show lasts.

It probably won't: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51331

Am I missing something here?

stj · September 24 2011, 10:58 PM

Most of the story emotional high points were about Olivia's feelings. I can't give a rat's ass about her feelings. Boring.

And erasing Peter as a shocker, then undoing the erasing so it has to be done again, is a really cheap way to resolve that.

AJ86 · September 24 2011, 11:34 PM

Below average. Fringe is better than this. All this episode does is make me hope they kill off Olivia and let us keep FauxLivia instead.

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I Didn't Think Fringe Could Be This Bad	1	2.86%
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September 24 2011, 01:06 PM	#61
RAMA Vice Admiral Location: NJ, USA	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) Peter is stuck in the TOS episode "the Tholian Web", and McCoy and Spock are going to have to work together to get him back! __________________ “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”—Stephen R. Covey

September 24 2011, 01:24 PM	#62
Procutus Admiral Location: Back behind my keyboard	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) ^ And he'll appear to Asteroid when she's at home changing into her nightgown! __________________ I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure.

September 24 2011, 02:07 PM	#64
AvBaur Commander Location: Munich, Germany	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) To review this episode, I'm gonna go with the title: 'Neither Here Nor There' There is some interesting stuff, but the Peter-less universe didn't seem entirely convincing to me. I'm intigued but not exactly excited. __________________ HIPSTERS VS. ROBOTS - my webcomic: http://www.hipsters-comic.com

September 24 2011, 02:28 PM	#65
Checkmate Commodore	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) I was pretty bored during this. Peter has had a much bigger impact on the outcome of both worlds (moreso in "ours" for long term effects) than they're portraying. So much of it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever with his absence.

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September 24 2011, 03:39 PM	#66
Forbin Admiral Location: I said out, dammit!	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) So they have a room between universes that they can just walk into now? Handy! __________________ My kitbashes: http://www.inpayne.com/models/kitbash/trekpage.html My Kitbash Wallpapers: http://www.inpayne.com/models/wallpa...allpapers.html My kitbash calendar: http://inpayne.com/calendar/kbcalendar2013.html

September 24 2011, 04:50 PM	#67
Serial thread killer Rear Admiral Location: uk	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) Was the warehouse where Joe Flanigan got turned in to a irrus bug, I mean killed the same one stargate Atlantis used for a bit of the Genii home world? __________________ Malcolm on Star Wars: "The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin. His father's a robot and he's fucking fucked his sister. Lego. They're all made of fucking lego."

September 24 2011, 05:33 PM	#68
CaptainCanada Admiral Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) I will say, I sort of think it was a mistake to include the first scene with Fauxlivia, given how the rest of the episode was structured. It was a good scene on its own, but the episode as a whole is more or less from Lincoln Lee's POV and builds up to his first encounter with the other side, personified by Fauxlivia; it would have been more effective if we hadn't seen her before that point. __________________ "I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are!" - Homer Simpson

September 24 2011, 06:19 PM	#69
Gotham Central Vice Admiral Location: Under the Globe with Clark	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) If Peter is gone, why can't we get Charlie back? If time can be rewritten so that Oliva and Lincoln's original meeting did not happen...why not save Charlie and have both versions of Fringe Division have the same players. Additionally...thatcwas a real waste of Joe Flannigan. One can only hope that there was more to it than what we saw. __________________ Well maybe I'm the faggot America. I'm not a part of a redneck agenda. Now everybody do the propaganda. And sing along in the age of paranoia Green Day

September 24 2011, 07:02 PM	#70
CaptainCanada Admiral Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) Kirk Acevedo is a regular on the new Prime Suspect, so you won't be seeing much of him anymore (he said that contractually he could do maybe three or four episodes), assuming that show lasts. __________________ "I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are!" - Homer Simpson

September 24 2011, 10:58 PM	#74
stj Rear Admiral Location: the real world	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) Most of the story emotional high points were about Olivia's feelings. I can't give a rat's ass about her feelings. Boring. And erasing Peter as a shocker, then undoing the erasing so it has to be done again, is a really cheap way to resolve that. __________________ Morals are what you do to other people. Other people, what we call society, are essential to human happiness. Therefore, morals are the path to happiness. My morals, your happiness; your morals, my happiness: It's a fair trade.

September 24 2011, 11:34 PM	#75
AJ86 Captain	Re: Fringe 4x01 - "Neither Here Nor There" (Discussion, Spoilers) Below average. Fringe is better than this. All this episode does is make me hope they kill off Olivia and let us keep FauxLivia instead.