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Old September 23 2011, 10:33 PM   #826
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

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Good grief, that's overwritten.

"Well, Perry, do you remember that tenement fire where Superman used cold breath?"
"Why yes I do, Lois, I seem to recall that he put it out rather quickly."
And that narration was cheesy as hell too. With the over-dramatic way it's explaining everything, you almost expect to hear "Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice..." lol

Thankfully the interior art looks pretty decent though, and is a LOT better than that awful cover.
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Old September 23 2011, 10:46 PM   #827
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Good grief, that's overwritten.

"Well, Perry, do you remember that tenement fire where Superman used cold breath?"
"Why yes I do, Lois, I seem to recall that he put it out rather quickly."
And that narration was cheesy as hell too. With the over-dramatic way it's explaining everything, you almost expect to hear "Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice..." lol

Thankfully the interior art looks pretty decent though, and is a LOT better than that awful cover.
I assume it was supposed to a newsreport judging by the font.

Sorry Steve but Perez's dialog is better:

George Perez wrote:
"Whoa ho-look at that! Superman's using the same cold wind shtick he used on the temement fire a few months back. "
Your version sound like a sports announcer at a golf tournement.
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Old September 23 2011, 11:00 PM   #828
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No question that there's too much dialogue and the wrong kind - functional, "let's comment on everything we see and make sure no one out there's lost for a moment" - but the story and the look of the thing, judging from the sample, is fine.

You know what? If Perez needed someone in the comic to draw attention at all in these pages to the fact that Supes is evolving it could have been something less on-the-nose and more plausible - something like "F*ck, since when can he do that?" and maybe let someone watching the replay later comment on it in passing.

"Tell me we got a shot of him blowing the fire out. That's new."

"Jeezus, at this rate in three weeks he'll be spinning the world backward."

Or maybe the whole schtick isn't necessary at all.

When does Supes get to use first-person narrative like the rest of the DC nuVerse?

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Old September 23 2011, 11:28 PM   #829
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I miss all the times he would think "Great Scott!" when someone new would show up.
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Old September 23 2011, 11:57 PM   #830
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For those who read "Stormwatch" you know that that issue contained a "major plot point" that carries over from "Superman" (which I'm assuming has to do with Superman confronting Apollo). "Stormwatch" really should have been released the same week so people buying that issue wouldn't be irritated at having to wait a couple of weeks to find out what the hell they're talking about
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Old September 24 2011, 12:47 AM   #831
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It would inevitably play as a steal from Alan Moore - but then, almost everything in superhero comics that's observant about their inner milieu does - but the fact that people are seeing Superman get more powerful before their eyes should give the government and particularly Lex Luthor one more strong rationale for wanting to contain Superman than they already have. Luthor's been hitting the "alien invasion" aspect pretty hard - what about the Doctor Manhattan/Gary Mitchell Effect: "If this keeps up he's going to have as much in common with us as we would with a planet full of white mice."
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Old September 24 2011, 01:14 AM   #832
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"I say old chap, Superman's powers have certainly progressed over the years!"

"yes, he has seen a lot of ACTION, seen a lot of ACTION I say".
I like the "token" Spanish woman. "Madre dios! Perry did you see that?!"

And her name is Ms. Izquierdo?!
Maybe George Perez knows something about hispanic characters.


Someone asked about Resurrection Man? It's all right, I guess. I liked the art, but the awful design of the action scene--which should have been a horror scene, and this is different--dissolved all of the tension they'd effectively built. So it was both great, and sucked, at the same time, averaging out to being okay.
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Old September 24 2011, 01:34 AM   #833
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"I say old chap, Superman's powers have certainly progressed over the years!"

"yes, he has seen a lot of ACTION, seen a lot of ACTION I say".
I like the "token" Spanish woman. "Madre dios! Perry did you see that?!"

And her name is Ms. Izquierdo?!
Maybe George Perez knows something about hispanic characters.
Maybe Ms. Izquierdo (a?) is actually Sinestro in disguise?
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Old September 24 2011, 02:27 AM   #834
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^_^

It is a real name though, e.g. Elisa Izquierdo, famous homicide victim, and Ricardo Izquierdo, M.D., a "plastic surgeon specializing in the Face, Breast, and Body."
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Old September 24 2011, 02:42 AM   #835
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I've gone back to not wanting to pick up "Superman" after reading the preview...Rao that was awful.
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Old September 24 2011, 02:58 AM   #836
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I'm looking forward to it - this and Action are the two I've been waiting for ever since they announced this whole thing.
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Old September 24 2011, 03:00 AM   #837
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

Nerys Myk wrote: View Post
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"I say old chap, Superman's powers have certainly progressed over the years!"

"yes, he has seen a lot of ACTION, seen a lot of ACTION I say".
I like the "token" Spanish woman. "Madre dios! Perry did you see that?!"

And her name is Ms. Izquierdo?!
Maybe George Perez knows something about hispanic characters.
Well, I presume that not everyone with a Hispanic last name knows everything there is to know about Hispanic persons, culture or surnames.

All the same, the surname and the use of language -to me- seems a bit... "needlessly stereotypical."
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Old September 24 2011, 03:04 AM   #838
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All the same, the surname and the use of language -to me- seems a bit... "needlessly stereotypical."
Odd, since there's nothing stereotypical about it. The problem in this case is not in the comic.
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Old September 24 2011, 03:16 AM   #839
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Seriously, dude, google "Izquierdo." Or don't.

  1. Izquierdo Studio - Professional Costume Design & Fabrication

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    Izquierdo Studio, New York City - custom costumes and props for the entertainment industry.
  2. Elisa Izquierdo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Elisa Izquierdo (February 11, 1989 – November 22, 1995) was a six-year-old Cuban American girl who became a symbol of child abuse in the USA after being ...
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  3. Dr. Izquierdo-Breast Augmentation-Tummy Tuck-Liposuction

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    Ricardo Izquierdo, M.D. is a Chicago, Oak Brook, and Naperville plastic surgeon specializing in surgery of the Face, Breast, and Body.
  4. Luis R. Izquierdo

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    Luis R. Izquierdo is a complex systems modeller with a strong background in mathematics, computer modelling, and economics. His main area of expertise is ...
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    Izquierdo Family History and Genealogy Facts. Search Immigration, Birth, Marriage, Death, Military and Census Records. Find Izquierdo Family History Facts at ...
  6. Ferran Izquierdo

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    Ferran Izquierdo · Home · Galleries · Lightboxes · portfolio ... Ferran Izquierdo |CONTACT |info@ferranizquierdo.com. Powered by PhotoShelter.
  7. Rene Izquierdo | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos

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    Rene Izquierdo's official profile including the latest music, albums, songs, music videos and more updates.
    Sonata in G K14 4:57
    Etude 7 by VillaLobos 2:33
    Rondena 8:16
    Fandango 4:30
  8. Dr. Richard Izquierdo Health & Science Charter School

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    Dr. Richard Izquierdo Health & Science Charter School, Opening with 6th Grade in September 2010.
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    emilia izquierdo. ... EMILIA IZQUIERDO · WORK · CV · CONTACT. © 2010 info@emiliaizquierdo.com. emilia izquierdo.
  10. Hansel Izquierdo Statistics and History - Baseball-Reference.com

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    Career: 2-0, 4.55 ERA, 20 SO, P, Marlins 2002, t:R, born in Cuba 1977.
Wait, Hansel?



He's so hot right now.
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Old September 24 2011, 03:32 AM   #840
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I was obviously mistaken, not knowing who wrote the comic.

The name itself still sticks out as odd to me (it's not one I've ever heard or seen before) as is the character's use of Spanish in that manner struck me as odd as well.

The writer may be Hispanic but, in my opinion, that doesn't make the panel/page any less silly. It seems to be trying to hard to inject a Hispanic character into the story. Rather than making the character look Hispanic and leaving it at that they have to go all out and make the character practically say "Look at me! Mia Espanol!"

I may have been wrong about the intentions behind the author but I still find it a bit silly and "trying too hard" to diversify the comic's "cast."
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