DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

[Praetor_Shinzon]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Red Hood is awesome...interesting uh...changes? Done to Kori.

you could say that again.

[Admiral_Young]

I wasn't just referring to her body...she's almost a totally new character which I guess is the intent. Yet how does Roy remember stuff that she doesn't? Unless of course she is choosing to simply ignore her past.

[Praetor_Shinzon]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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I wasn't just referring to her body...she's almost a totally new character which I guess is the intent. Yet how does Roy remember stuff that she doesn't? Unless of course she is choosing to simply ignore her past.

i'm not one to ever say that something is 'ruined, ruined forever.' or 'my childhood has been raped'...but i just can't see how someone would think, 'yeah, make Starfire a slut. thats gold!'

[Myasishchev]

Dennis wrote:

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Out of curiosity, what were the DC books you bought in July?

Fair enough.

But that's the thing, while they sparked my interest in the DCU as a whole, it's not like I didn't have an interest before--they just disarmed my discrimination. It's looking like it'll be back down to three or so in a couple of months. But maybe four or five, who knows?

And if you'll also be fair, I would've bought Batwoman back when it was originally solicited too. And I'd have been buying Superman if it hadn't been JMSed, and wouldn't have dropped Booster Gold if it hadn't been Jurgensed.

I'm not down on relaunch as a whole, though, and you're right; people seem to care a lot more, to be showing a lot more interest and willingness to part with their dollars. I guess they've succeeded, but it's a qualified success. I've been trying to point out their individual triumphs along with their individual failures. The only thing that gets me is that some of the failures seemed to be easily avoidable.

Hound of Ulster wrote:

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Also Aquaman and Superman for next week.

Oh yeah. Alright, week 4 could be the strongest, potentially. I'm faintly curious about both of those. I expect them to sort of suck, but Geoff Johns has been surprising me lately, almost to the extent that I'm tempted to get back into Green Lantern. Only so long as the reports of an idiot man-child Hal Jordan are not exaggerated.

[Praetor_Shinzon]

anyway, i thought Nightwing and DC Universe Presents Deadman were the best comics of this week. i like how Dick has 'leveled up' from his time as Batman.

[Trekker4747]

Thought I'd get my Batman #1 in the mail today.

I didn't. Maybe tomorrow.

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Myasishchev wrote:

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The only thing that gets me is that some of the failures seemed to be easily avoidable.

Well, yeah - I'm surprised that the one book I was let down by this month was Green Lantern, which I generally like and which they really weren't challenged to do much more with than keep on course.

But to keep up my tiresome analogy, every week I look at the TV schedules and say to myself "What morons thought that this show was a good idea? They get paid to do this." And, of course, I say that about some shows that turn out to be very popular.

BTW, I'm totally buying these things digital - I'd never done that, and I like it. Obviously not a collector.

[Myasishchev]

I've definitely bought more because of the digital day-and-date than I would have otherwise. Part of that is that a few of these books straight up fail the flip-test (Supergirl I'd have accidentally read in the store ), part is that, well, they're there and I don't have to look very hard for them, and part may well be that Internet purchases feel less real than physical ones, even if they cost basically the same amount (less gasoline, I suppose).

[Admiral Buzzkill]

My off-line recreational reading is pretty sparely parceled out these days, so the opportunity to buy and immediately read comics the way I consume most of my entertainment makes a big difference.

[Myasishchev]

Indeed. For all the differences of opinion regarding content, and some minor quibbles over the format (I still think the Comixology reader kind of blows, but it blows as an Internet reader, not as a concept), I think we can all agree that DD+D (I made that up myself) is pretty great, and evidence that suggests I might actually living in the Future.

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Myasishchev wrote:

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DD+D (I made that up myself)

The alternative formulation would be 3D, and no one wants that.

[JD]

If anyone wants to be able to try DC's digital comics before they buy them, they do have a weekly digital preview. It's a free collection of the first five pages of each one of that weeks comics.

[theenglish]

Myasishchev wrote:

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I've definitely bought more because of the digital day-and-date than I would have otherwise. Part of that is that a few of these books straight up fail the flip-test (Supergirl I'd have accidentally read in the store ), part is that, well, they're there and I don't have to look very hard for them, and part may well be that Internet purchases feel less real than physical ones, even if they cost basically the same amount (less gasoline, I suppose).

I am definitely a fan of the DD+D (which sounds less nerdily pornographic than "same day digital release"). But for the reduced price I am willing to wait four weeks and am just buying one or two books a week for this first month.

I think there are enough interesting books to keep my attention, and there have been some very good ones. But this relaunch has also got me into other company's books like Walking Dead and Invincible rather than waiting for the trades.

I agree with your critique of the reader. I wish that you could buy the books in a way similar to the way you buy ebooks, but I am living with this version for the moment. The iPad reader is much better than the computer reader, just so you know.

[OdoWanKenobi]

Yeah, I'm almost certainly buying way more than I would have without the same day digital. Of course, a lot of these are going to be one and done affairs. I'm giving the books that I might have an interest in a shot. Some I'll keep reading, some I won't. My only gripe with the digital comics is that I really wish we were able to download the comics to keep on a hard drive. That way, I can still read my books even if my internet is down (which reading comic books has always been one of my primary "no internet" activities.)

[Broccoli]

Dennis wrote:

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Frankly, though, the outrage over at some of the comics forums about the last pages of Catwoman is entertaining as all hell. These repressed, emotionally arrested readers accusing the DC people of being immature and trying to shock need to look up "projection."

I'm not planning to pick-up Catwoman nor am I planning to go to a comic shop until next week, so what's the big deal about the last pages?