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Old September 21 2011, 10:39 PM   #706
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Clearly, DC realizes no one but grown ups read comics anymore so they have discarded the For Mature Readers Only...
No one but 13-year-old boys read comic anymore. You can tell by how they completely bimbofied Starfire.
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Old September 21 2011, 10:40 PM   #707
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Yeah, Starfire used to be a model of restraint.
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Old September 21 2011, 10:46 PM   #708
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Catwoman was fun and sexy which I expected. Winnick really loves to use the Russian mob in his stories! The most interesting aspect for me was Selina's internal dialogue at the end where she says she doesn't know who Bruce is!!! So they've retconned out their "Hush" moment? That was probably the only thing I liked out of Hush haha.
Were you reading Gotham City Sirens? There's an explanation within the last six months there for why Selina might not know who's under the cowl. Basically, Zee and Talia wiped part of Selina's memory because a villain knew that Catwoman knew who Batman was.

Oh well...I wonder if Morrison will ignore this since they know who each other are obviously in Batman, Inc.
Though if Stephanie is going to be Spoiler in the Batman Inc. one-shot (when she should be Batgirl, to complete that penultimate storyline in Batgirl), who knows.
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Old September 21 2011, 10:46 PM   #709
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Clearly, DC realizes no one but grown ups read comics anymore so they have discarded the For Mature Readers Only...
No one but 13-year-old boys read comic anymore. You can tell by how they completely bimbofied Starfire.
You mean 30 year olds who are LIKE 13 year olds.
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Old September 21 2011, 10:56 PM   #710
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I SO wouldn't let my hypothetical 8 year old read Catwoman...
Well to be fair, they probably weren't expecting many kids to be picking up Catwoman anyway.
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Old September 21 2011, 11:12 PM   #711
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I really like Supergirl.

I was a thirteen year old kid...over four decades ago.
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Old September 21 2011, 11:15 PM   #712
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I really like Supergirl.

I was a thirteen year old kid...over four decades ago.
Don't take this the wrong way--people can react to things in different ways--but why? I'm genuinely curious, and feel like maybe I missed something. It felt like a mint to me when I wanted a meal--I mean, I just realized that it only had one scene.
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Old September 21 2011, 11:25 PM   #713
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@Allyn Gibson I remember about the arc in Gotham City Sirens but I thought they allowed her to keep her memories of Bruce? Just an interesting observation that I noticed.

Supergirl's writing was better than the issues of Superman/Batman that House of UIster referenced a couple of pages ago...I will agree with Myasichev regarding the pacing of the book. The fight scenes against the mechs was just awful.
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Old September 21 2011, 11:30 PM   #714
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Clearly, DC realizes no one but grown ups read comics anymore so they have discarded the For Mature Readers Only...

I SO wouldn't let my hypothetical 8 year old read Catwoman...
Well to be fair, they probably weren't expecting many kids to be picking up Catwoman anyway.
True. I'm just wondering which book I would give to an 8 to 10 year old...


Edited to add: Just started reading Supergirl... Man, that opening sequence... I mean... THROUGH the... WOULDN'T that cause A LOT of problems? I mean... if one thought about it... for a second.
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Didn't Batman #1 come out today?
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Old September 21 2011, 11:37 PM   #716
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I really like Supergirl.

I was a thirteen year old kid...over four decades ago.
Don't take this the wrong way--people can react to things in different ways--but why? I'm genuinely curious, and feel like maybe I missed something. It felt like a mint to me when I wanted a meal--I mean, I just realized that it only had one scene.

I enjoyed the one scene. You know, this one moment in the character's life is what Veep Biden would call "a big fucking deal," maybe the biggest, and so first off I don't have a problem as such with making a story out of it and sticking with it rather than - I don't know, doing flashbacks or going to another POV or setting up a subplot for a future issue in a clear fashion.

I like the art. I like the character's narration and POV. The fact that she's basically Superman and has no reason to like or even give a shit about anyone around her now is pretty amusing.

I like the lightness of it all - she's a teenager, she thinks she's going to live forever anyway, and all of this is in turns confusing and annoying and scary but it's going to take a while before any of it gets very real.

And I think doing the story in first person but having the reader/audience know everything while the character talking to you knows nothing is an approach that always has a nice suspense about it.
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Old September 21 2011, 11:39 PM   #717
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@Trekker yes...


Wonder Woman was incredibly fun. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.
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Old September 21 2011, 11:46 PM   #718
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Well, I should have it delivered to me soon, has no one read it yet? I mean, it's Batman! Why are we talking about Supergirl and others. What was Batman like?!
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Old September 21 2011, 11:54 PM   #719
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^ Someone briefly reviewed it last page and I think gave it a negative response...at least the opening monologue. I don't remember now lol.


Okay I just finished reading "Batman #1" and my Rao was the art gorgeous...Greg Capullo's art was spectacular and the splash of the Cave was marvellous. Scott Snyder can write Batman for as long as he wants to. As far as I'm concerned he is the heir apparent to Grant Morrison...and it was nice to see the facial recognition mask from Batman, Inc make it's first field appearance here. We have an interesting mystery afoot now!
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Old September 22 2011, 12:08 AM   #720
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I really like Supergirl.

I was a thirteen year old kid...over four decades ago.
Don't take this the wrong way--people can react to things in different ways--but why? I'm genuinely curious, and feel like maybe I missed something. It felt like a mint to me when I wanted a meal--I mean, I just realized that it only had one scene.

I enjoyed the one scene. You know, this one moment in the character's life is what Veep Biden would call "a big fucking deal," maybe the biggest, and so first off I don't have a problem as such with making a story out of it and sticking with it rather than - I don't know, doing flashbacks or going to another POV or setting up a subplot for a future issue in a clear fashion.

I like the art. I like the character's narration and POV. The fact that she's basically Superman and has no reason to like or even give a shit about anyone around her now is pretty amusing.

I like the lightness of it all - she's a teenager, she thinks she's going to live forever anyway, and all of this is in turns confusing and annoying and scary but it's going to take a while before any of it gets very real.

And I think doing the story in first person but having the reader/audience know everything while the character talking to you knows nothing is an approach that always has a nice suspense about it.
I can see where you're coming from. This is what I meant when I said it wasn't bad in a positive, or affirmative, way--like, what's there is not badly written--

--Even the narration, which has a tendency to be badly written. Not by the Mikes, I mean, who do a decent job here, but by everybody else. I think it's interesting that this storytelling trick seems to be making a comeback, although everyone seems to have forgotten how to do it properly--

--But I didn't get a lot from the comic itself, other than "Kara is confused (and thinks she's dreaming)". Like you said, this is definitely the correct and proper tone, but I thought the execution of that concept, i.e. a very long fight scene with cypher enemies, was a mistake.

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Indeed. That's why I didn't buy it, personally.
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