"Castle" season 4 begins tonight

[Admiral_Young]

Also I laughed at her expression after Ryan and Esposito's explanation of where Castle and Beckett went. You could tell she knew they were bull shitting. I don't think she's all that hard assed, of course it's really early.

[JiNX-01]

timothy wrote:

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I just got through playing catch up on all 3 seasons and the fourth season primier. I am now hooked on this show. I thought season 3 finally was awesome. the premier it self was pretty good especially adding michael dorn to the cast was awesome. so she remmbers everything that happened including Richard telling her that he loved her. so we now have sexual tension on both sides. and what was up with the computer Richard had do you think he has all the files that were destroyed in the fire?


all so has any one read any of the books?

I have read all of the books released so far.

[JiNX-01]

Kirby wrote:

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A while ago Fillion said in an interview (maybe Kevin Pollack's Chat Show or Nerdist) that he pitched a story about a sci-fi convention and the star of a long since cancelled show gets murdered and all of his fellow cast mates are suspects. He wanted to essentially have a Firefly reunion, and since Tim Minear is an EP on the show, and they aren't shy about throwing in some Firefly nodds... I don't know if that'll ever get made, but I would love to see that.

OMG, that would uberAWESOME!

[timothy]

JiNX-01 wrote:

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I have read all of the books released so far.

okay cool is there a reading list for them ?

[IcecreamLtDan]

There aren't that many books at this point. There are only 3, including the one mentioned after this episode that's just been released, and a graphic novel for "Derrick Storm" who is the main character in Castle's previous series as mentioned in the show. Never read the graphic novel and I just bought the newest book. The books have been good reads so far, they're nothing ground breaking and read like an episode of the show. There enjoyable for a quick and easy read so I'd recommend them. If you're looking for a really dark, deep murder/mystery read, you won't find them in these books though.

http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Castle/e/B001HD1RBU

I enjoyed the episode, I felt it was a good opening episode for this year after the cliffhanger from last year. I also like how they handled the whole "I Love You" revelation from Castle at the end of last years finale. It would've been such a cop out for her to actually forget it, or for them to start a relationship at this point with everything going on, it's a brave choice, one that I'm sure will have consequences later on.

I also like the whole Kate seeing a psychiatrist angle they're going with. With everything that's happened to her, and where things are still at, I couldn't begin to understand what she's going through and I'm glad she's getting help. It certainly helps that it's Michael Dorn too, I hope he sticks around for a while, I always liked him. I guess that's at least two former Star Trek alumni that's been in this show now, plus someone who was in a Firefly episode.

Rick is going down a dangerous road here with him leading Kate away from her mothers case in an attempt to protect her. I get the feeling he's really going to pay for it in the long run, not only with Kate, but with his mother and daughter as well. Can't wait to find out who this new, secret guy is, and what his role in the whole thing is. I have my suspicions that the mayor is involved in this as well.

I think my only problem with the episode was the actual murder/mystery itself. Of course, that's never been a strong point for the show, or it's main focus. The show has always been about the characters and their interaction with each other but, come on. You mean to tell me no one bothered to search the chicks room before Castle showed up? I mean, the sheets and everything had been removed from the bed, probably by forensics, and no one notice the lack of a blood stain under the bed in the shape of a body, and fingerprints on the bed frame? That was a stretch imo.

Anyway, looking forward to the season and to seeing where it all leads to. Hopefully, they can continue and improve upon where the shows been so far.

[Christopher]

^Yeah, the books are decent as Castle tie-in novels with the character names changed (and relationships slightly altered), but they're totally unconvincing as the actual in-universe novels Castle writes, since there's no way he'd be so, well, unoriginal and copy the characters so exactly from real people rather than creating (less legally actionable) composites.

[JiNX-01]

timothy wrote:

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okay cool is there a reading list for them ?

Sure:

Naked Heat
Heat Wave
Heat Rises

[Skywalker]

JiNX-01 wrote:

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Sure:

Naked Heat
Heat Wave
Heat Rises

Still waiting for them to use "In Heat."

[JiNX-01]

Skywalker wrote:

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Still waiting for them to use "In Heat."

Castle has a FB site ... Suggest it.

[timothy]

Sure:

Naked Heat
Heat Wave
Heat Rises


cool thanks JiNX-01 found them on my nook.

[Christopher]

Actually Heat Wave was first, then Naked Heat, then the just-released Heat Rises.

[JiNX-01]

timothy wrote:

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Sure:

Naked Heat
Heat Wave
Heat Rises


cool thanks JiNX-01 found them on my nook.

Great. I only have Heat Rises on my nook. The others are hard cover.

[TheSeeker]

Kirby wrote:

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A while ago Fillion said in an interview (maybe Kevin Pollack's Chat Show or Nerdist) that he pitched a story about a sci-fi convention and the star of a long since cancelled show gets murdered and all of his fellow cast mates are suspects. He wanted to essentially have a Firefly reunion, and since Tim Minear is an EP on the show, and they aren't shy about throwing in some Firefly nodds... I don't know if that'll ever get made, but I would love to see that.

It sounds very similar to the soap opera star murder episode we got.

As for the episode, I have to say that I was not really blown away. I didn't feel any tension when they were trying to save Kate's life because it was pretty obvious that they weren't going to kill her off. As other's have said the new Captain is very clichéd but there were a few scene's I sort of got the feeling that she "gets it" and is just doing her job. Still, I would have preferred to have seen Michael Dorn as the new Captain. When I saw his name in the credits I was hoping that's what we would get.

I also felt the show was pretty predictable. Another season premiere where they don't talk all summer but you just knew they would make up in the end. And as soon as Kate froze up the first time she had to draw her weapon you knew there would be a scene later on where she'd redeem herself. I also don't think the darker tone works for the show. What I like most about Castle are the interactions between the team when they're working a case and the humour. I know they like to inject a little drama to the show once in a while but they are definitely not my favourite episodes.

Still, I look forward to seeing how the season unfolds. I hope we get to see of Michael Dorn too.

[Forbin]

The novels are pretty crappy. They're cliche pulp detective novels. But that said, they seem to be exactly the kind of thing Castle would write.

[Christopher]

TheSeeker wrote:

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And as soon as Kate froze up the first time she had to draw her weapon you knew there would be a scene later on where she'd redeem herself.

Still, I liked the way that it was Castle having her back, reassuring her "You've got this," that let her overcome her hesitation. A great moment for them as a team.

I also don't think the darker tone works for the show. What I like most about Castle are the interactions between the team when they're working a case and the humour.

They'll probably go back to that for most of the season, but they had a lot of stuff to deal with here before they could.