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Old September 19 2011, 09:49 PM   #631
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Re: DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

Supergirl #1 preview...the art looks good. Hopefully the story is as well.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...w-supergirl-1/
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Old September 19 2011, 10:00 PM   #632
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I really don't like that costume.
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Old September 19 2011, 10:01 PM   #633
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Which is a good argument for loose editorial control* and continuity only affecting one book, not for integration into the DCU, though.

*Although the fact it took ten years to push 27 issues isn't. Warren Ellis: a lazy jerk. "NO QUESTIONS ABOUT PLANETARY" "Finish your story, old man! No one cares about the Ultimate Fantastic Four!"
Planetary was as close to a labor of love as you can get from a big publisher; there was very little money in it upfront for Ellis and Cassaday, so they would frequently chase paychecks, Ellis by writing other books, Cassaday with his artwork for Marvel and Dynamite and, later, his film work. It wasn't laziness but paycheck economics that caused Planetary to be spread across ten years.
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Old September 19 2011, 10:01 PM   #634
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Supergirl #1 preview...the art looks good. Hopefully the story is as well.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...w-supergirl-1/
This is the same team that brought up a run of Superman and Batman that was worse than Jeph Loeb. Good here is only relative in terms of the bottom of the slush pile.
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Old September 19 2011, 10:03 PM   #635
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Yeah I thought I recognized them. I don't like Kara's costume either. Interesting that it implies she arrives to Earth already in it lol. I'm guessing that these are like regular Kryptonian clothing in the 52Verse.
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Old September 19 2011, 10:12 PM   #636
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Old September 19 2011, 10:34 PM   #637
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Stephanie Brown is back as Spoiler in Batman: Incorporated: Leviathan Strikes. It's not unexpected, but it is disappointing. I was hoping DC would publish it as a pre-Batgirl #24 comic, since the issue of Batgirl with Stephanie in London was to continue into the storyline with Bruce and Steph kicking ass at a boarding school.
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Old September 19 2011, 10:37 PM   #638
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Looking forward to the end of "season one" of Batman, Inc. I'm already going through Morrison Batman withdrawal. Disappointing but kind of expected with regards to Steph. I'm just glad she is in tact.
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Old September 19 2011, 10:50 PM   #639
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Full list of creative changes here
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Old September 19 2011, 10:56 PM   #640
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Yeah I thought I recognized them. I don't like Kara's costume either. Interesting that it implies she arrives to Earth already in it lol. I'm guessing that these are like regular Kryptonian clothing in the 52Verse.
"If I graduate" from what?

In fairness, it's not like they had much say in how it looked.

The art is pretty decent, but doesn't really match the words. They say it's going through the mantle? That's not what an impact drilling through the mantle would look like, it'd be a bit bigger.

Also, Supergirl fights mechas yaaawwwn. And "A restricted area"? What is? Siberia? Earth? This is what second drafts are for guys.

Kara's narration is okay, though.

ETA: and about the art, I'm getting the distinct impression that Asrar is one of those guys who is much better at drawing people than he is things. I mean, that's illustrious company--Jae Lee can't draw shit except people (and gargoyles), and Pete Woods has a hard time of it too occasionally

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My understanding was that Ellis got sick, and didn't have the thing scripted, and Cassaday had to seek work in order to live (although it doesn't appear he has to do so anymore, given his recent output has been--entirely?--incredibly bland covers, including that hilarious [yet still bland] one from JMS's Superman), and then when Ellis recovered, he actually lost a lot of interest in doing Planetary, and finished it begrudgingly.

Maybe it's a chicken and the egg thing. Like, he couldn't do regular work on Planetary because of money, but when people bitched about it, he started getting sick of Planetary.

Of course, given that Planetary was surely his best-loved work of the past ten years, if he wasn't making money off it, something's weird.
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Supergirl #1 preview...the art looks good. Hopefully the story is as well.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/09/...w-supergirl-1/


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Old September 20 2011, 01:45 AM   #642
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There's nothing about this I don't like, so far. I like the art. I like the first person narration. I like the fact that it's a reboot.

I'm surprised that I'm looking forward to Supergirl #1, because Supergirl's not a character I've ever paid a whole lot of attention to. She is one of the first comic book characters I remember reading about, though, along with Superman (of course) and Batman. She's been through so many versions, and so many of them confused and annoying (IMAO and to the admittedly vague extent that I noticed them) since COIE that if any DC character is more likely to be improved by and less likely to be damaged by rebooting one more time it's probably her.

Oh, and I like the costume.
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Are there any changes in writers? Looks like pretty much shifting artists in and out, and adding back-up features.
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Old September 20 2011, 02:06 AM   #644
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Keith Giffen as the new writer for GA.

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There's nothing about this I don't like, so far. I like the art. I like the first person narration. I like the fact that it's a reboot.

I'm surprised that I'm looking forward to Supergirl #1, because Supergirl's not a character I've ever paid a whole lot of attention to. She is one of the first comic book characters I remember reading about, though, along with Superman (of course) and Batman. She's been through so many versions, and so many of them confused and annoying (IMAO and to the admittedly vague extent that I noticed them) since COIE that if any DC character is more likely to be improved by and less likely to be damaged by rebooting one more time it's probably her.

Oh, and I like the costume.
I like the cape a lot, and everything above the wasteline is fine. The chastity belt/diaper/thing is sort of goofy. Not a fan of the bare legs or kneeless boots, because they don't jibe with my preconceptions, but they don't look bad.

The makeup is unnecessary and raises questions, but comic book women secrete that from glands in their face; it's probably just something no one even remotely bothered to think about, which if I'm being realistic I can't be disappointed in.

I was right about how sparse the pages are. Four pages, and an average of 2.25 panels per page? Jeez. In fairness, I know what the next page looks like from a preview of Asrar's pencils, which raises it to a whopping 2.4. I'll even be extra fair, like appellate court judge fair, and take out the splash; and it's still only 2.75. I dunno, maybe the rest of the book is written like Berlin, but I doubt it.

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