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Old September 17 2011, 01:32 AM   #586
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1+1= Luthor
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Old September 17 2011, 02:00 AM   #587
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Yes, but Fairchild has no idea who the human donor is - she even discounts the possibility that someone with such a personality could exist. And she concludes all of this, as far as we're told and shown, simply from Connor's repeated lack of empathy for the woman in the burning house. That might make Connor a number of things, but that his genes come from a megalomaniac doesn't follow logically from that.
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Old September 17 2011, 02:41 AM   #588
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The impression I got from it was "meh, it's a simulation, if I have to be in this VR setting I'll waste my time talking to the hot virtual girl".
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Old September 17 2011, 03:46 AM   #589
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Yes, but Fairchild has no idea who the human donor is - she even discounts the possibility that someone with such a personality could exist. And she concludes all of this, as far as we're told and shown, simply from Connor's repeated lack of empathy for the woman in the burning house. That might make Connor a number of things, but that his genes come from a megalomaniac doesn't follow logically from that.
I was joking.
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Old September 17 2011, 05:13 PM   #590
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I finally got around to reading my DC books.

Resurrection Man #1 - I only read spot issues of the first run back in the 90's. Usually cause of a crossover character appearing. I liked Resurrection Man but I never got on board. Was already reading/purchasing way too many back then to add another.
I decided this go around to start with the character from the beginning and make room for RM in the budget.

I liked what I saw. The plot was laid out clearly that both a Heaven and a Hell are interested in Mitch's soul. The first volley here was a type of Angel coming for him. I wonder who her carrier is to get God on a cellphone?! LOL

Anyway so my thought is this, if we are to assume that Heaven and Hell are of the Judaism and Christian faiths could other Religious deities also take an interest in Mitch? Now I wouldn't want the book to be JUST about spritual issues but if the title lasts, which is why I'm picking it up in case it's fate is that of the 1st, then it would be an avenue to explore perhaps.

Demon Knights #1 - I really knew nothing more of this title coming in other than Etrigan, Dark/Middle Ages and Madame Xanadu. Xanadu being a character I know of in name only, zip, zero and nada to I know of her background except magic is involved.

I mean it's a Jack Kirby character, I was going to try him out. Especially since Etrigan hasn't had much spotlight the past decade.

I really liked the issue. Unlike some I don't feel the intro's were rushed. It felt like a journey unraveling at a good pace. Unlike JLA which is going to take SIX issues to get all the players together. But I digress.

Didn't know Vandal Savage would show so for me that was a plus. As I read the Q&A in the back of the issue the writer described the book as a type of Magnificent Seven in the Dark Ages, so Vandal Savage is going to be a regular it seems. Cool.

I know nothing of this Sir Ystin The Shinning Knight. My first thought was "Hey, it's Loki's son" Assuming he's an existing character I'll Wiki him.

So Xanadu is having an affair with the same physical space regardless of whose home. Interesting. I wonder if that type personality was normal for her or if that's something new. Seems cold, I mean who am I to believe she really cares for? She could be lying to both or lying to one to protect the one she does love?


I didn't really notice it till I was on the DC boards but it seems the titles I'm trying out, for fear they could be first cancelled, are the ones under their DARK banner. I got Swamp Thing, Animal Man and now these two.
I may see if I can go ahead and get Frankenstein, Agent of Shade now. A few seem to have given that some good remarks upthread. Maybe go ahead and test out JLDark as well, both are ones I hadn't thought to get but maybe I'll stay with their DARK books outside of Aquaman which is going to be the only "hero" book I get.
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Old September 17 2011, 05:29 PM   #591
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It will probably turn out to be Luthor DNA. This Project NOWHERE seems as shady as Cadmus was. It was interesting that Lois was doing an investigation into it, which would imply that it isn't on the up and up

Looks like we're getting a new Ray mini-series stating in Dec.

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Old September 18 2011, 04:48 PM   #592
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It will probably turn out to be Luthor DNA.
Yeah, I assume that they're not altering Superboy to such an extent that his gene donors are different.
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Old September 18 2011, 07:49 PM   #593
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Plus IIRC that little revelation was during Geoff Johns Teen Titan run. I doubt they would undo something Johns implemented.
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Old September 18 2011, 09:01 PM   #594
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Plus IIRC that little revelation was during Geoff Johns Teen Titan run. I doubt they would undo something Johns implemented.
Right, originally he wasn't even a clone of Superman.
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Old September 18 2011, 09:09 PM   #595
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Plus IIRC that little revelation was during Geoff Johns Teen Titan run. I doubt they would undo something Johns implemented.
In fairness, it's one of the better ideas Johns ever came up with.
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Old September 18 2011, 09:12 PM   #596
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but they could draw from the third movie to increase the disturbingness of the character, right?

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Old September 18 2011, 09:28 PM   #597
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SUPERGIRL#4

Trapped and powerless aboard a space station, Supergirl is at the mercy of an ingenious new foe who wants to learn everything there is to know about her. But Supergirl is more than just her powers, and she’ll soon show this foe – and all of Earth – what’s she truly capable of! Plus, more on the Girl of Steel’s mysterious origin!
Mysterious origin, huh? That worked out great last time!
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Old September 18 2011, 09:38 PM   #598
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^ I'm still concerned with this new direction they are taking Supergirl in. Once again we get a totally new version of her. Seems this happens once every few years or so. Crisis. John Bryne Matrix version. Peter David angel version. Michael Turner version, and of course Karen Starr. Sigh. LOL.
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Old September 18 2011, 09:43 PM   #599
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Plus IIRC that little revelation was during Geoff Johns Teen Titan run. I doubt they would undo something Johns implemented.
In fairness, it's one of the better ideas Johns ever came up with.
I don't get this though. When Superboy was created, Luthor was in a clone body posing as his own son. When Cadmus took Superman's body to clone it, Luthor, Lois, and Supergirl worked to stop them. Did the retcon just completely ignore this story altogether? (I actually thought that this was just a Smallville invention originally.)
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No. It wasn't a "Smallville" invention, in fact Smallville took the Luthor/Clark Kent DNA thing and used it. Connor was originally thought to be the clone of Superman and Cadmus Director Paul Westfield. Johns retconned during his Teen Titans run that it was actually Lex whose DNA he possessed. In order to bring an inner conflict to the character. This also happened just before the great Titans Tomorrow story line (the first one).

I believe Lex dying and transferring himself to a clone body and pretending to be his son who spoke with an Australian accent has been retconned, or simply ignored. It hasn't been brought up in a very long time.
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