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Old September 14 2011, 03:25 PM   #31
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

The Search (II)
Meridian
Prophet Motive
Family Business

Heading off to bed now....was very very tempted to save Meridian as some strange part of me actually doesn't mind it (especially the B-plot)...but I just can't in good conscience when Through the Looking Glass is still there, which is a fun action romp. Before the mirror universe got too tedious and silly.
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Old September 14 2011, 03:25 PM   #32
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

Meridian
Prophet Motive
Family Business

The Search (II). The dream resolution might have been a cop-out, but I still don't get the hate. And it's much better than what is left. (And much better than some that have been saved *cough* Fascination *cough*.)
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Old September 14 2011, 03:27 PM   #33
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

Glad someone saved it, I wanted to save that too but I liked The Abandoned a bit more. The bottom 4 is pretty yukky now. Just missing Fascination really!
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Old September 14 2011, 03:28 PM   #34
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

Meridian
Family Business

I'll save Prophet Motive. As a Ferengi episode, it sucks slightly less than Family Business, which has Moogie in it.
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Old September 14 2011, 03:28 PM   #35
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

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Glad someone saved it, I wanted to save that too but I liked The Abandoned a bit more. The bottom 4 is pretty yukky now. Just missing Fascination really!
Me and Geck posted at almost the same time, so which 4 are you referring to? It is 3 now.

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Yeah, people often tend to see season 3 as the turning point for the series, when it started to become great, but....aside from a half-dozen highlights, I think it's probably the weakest season of the whole show.
Season 1 is weaker.
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Old September 14 2011, 03:31 PM   #36
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

I'll take great pleasure in this.

Meridian

Saving "Family Business".
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Old September 14 2011, 03:33 PM   #37
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

Here's a quick breakdown of my somewhat unconventional (mainly the first-place choice) feelings on DS9:

7 > 5 > 6 > 2 > 4 > 3 > 1.

Sorry, I'm from GameFAQs. We rank things for a living, it feels like. Anyway, they're all solid to me except the first year, which is passable but shaky. Third season being the weakest overall is definitely not something I can get behind.
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Old September 14 2011, 03:35 PM   #38
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Me and Geck posted at almost the same time, so which 4 are you referring to? It is 3 now.
I can't keep up. I was replying to you so was including The Search Part 2 in there...

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Yeah, people often tend to see season 3 as the turning point for the series, when it started to become great, but....aside from a half-dozen highlights, I think it's probably the weakest season of the whole show.
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Season 1 is weaker.
Yeah season 1 is weaker than 3, but I like season 2 a hair more. I guess it depends on how into Bajor you were or not.

The correct () sequence is: 5-7-6-4-2-3-1. Though 6 & 7, and 4 & 2 tend to float around a bit if I'm rewatching.

And woo! Meridian is this season's stinker! Though we all knew this! This episode does have a pretty amazing B-plot though.
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Old September 14 2011, 03:37 PM   #39
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

I was fingers-crossed someone wasn't going to rush in and feel otherwise about it because I really dislike it! Makes "Family Business" look like "Past Tense" as far as I'm concerned -- in other words, not the best but still pretty damn good. (And "Family Business" is, of course, not exactly stellar.)
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Old September 14 2011, 03:58 PM   #40
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Re: The most disliked episode of DS9 - Part Three

Actually I was the one who saved The Search II.

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Here's a quick breakdown of my somewhat unconventional (mainly the first-place choice) feelings on DS9:

7 > 5 > 6 > 2 > 4 > 3 > 1.
5 > 6 > 7 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 1
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Old September 14 2011, 04:06 PM   #41
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Ha! My pathetic excuse is I've been up since 6am and been to work and it was a bit of a nightmare and and and...
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Old September 14 2011, 04:14 PM   #42
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5 > 6 > 7 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 1
Hey, not too far off and I can totally see where you're coming from with everything.

2 and 4 do tend to fluctuate back and forth for me.
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Old September 14 2011, 09:17 PM   #43
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5 > 6 > 7 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 1
Hey, not too far off and I can totally see where you're coming from with everything.

2 and 4 do tend to fluctuate back and forth for me.
4 is higher on my list because it's the first season of DS9 that was really consistent. It didn't have episodes that were the same level of awful and the quality didn't fluctuate that much, which made seasons 2 and 3 pretty frustrating. Season 2 is awesome when you look at the best episodes - overall it has more awesome episodes than 4 - but it has some really weak episodes in the middle.

The best "season" starts with Things Past and ends with Sacrifice of Angels. The opening 6-episode arc of season 6 is great, then it gets diluted, though there are several excellent/great episodes. I can see why you'd put 7 first - it sustains the momentum better with the final arc, because it's longer and because it's the end, and there are several other great episodes, but for me it's too marred by the whole Pah-wraiths and Sisko's Prophet Mom thing.
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Old September 14 2011, 09:24 PM   #44
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Yeah, I have to think long and hard about putting 2 above 4 and sometimes it drops anyway. You're absolutely right -- it has more awesome episodes than the fourth year but that middle stretch is pretty painful to get through.

I would say "The Muse" is probably the worst episode of the fourth season but it's not as bad as four or more second-season outings.

That opening arc in the sixth season is terrific.

Everything you said about why the seventh season is at the top for me is exactly how I feel, except of course that those lesser elements don't quite bother me as much as they do most people. I'm also an Ezri fan. It's true that introducing a new cast member in the final year of a dramatic series can (and to some extent did) cause problems but I enjoyed her development enough to let it slide.
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Old September 14 2011, 09:26 PM   #45
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Philistines! Except for Jeff O'Connor, since he's an Ezri fan.

6 > 7 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
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